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Cyberdevil
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Age 35, Male

Poet/Designer/Etc

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Sweden

Joined on 1/17/04

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62,796 / 100,000
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83
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10.04 votes
Audio Scouts
10+
Art Scouts
10+
Rank:
Sup. Commander
Global Rank:
6
Blams:
32,635
Saves:
233,775
B/P Bonus:
60%
Whistle:
Deity
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42
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11,186
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11y 9m 26d
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11

Hexalists & Hearts

Posted by Cyberdevil - February 14th, 2014

A Heartfelt Hexalist Update

I just took over the hexalist! Take a look. It's a one-of-a-kind update, a hearty batch of rosy dosage. :P And of course I'm taking the lead in the lists... though it's going to be strange not being able to respond on my rank-climbing rise on my own updates. :/

Hearty Art

Here's a lil' something for today. Really nothing special. For real. Just like last year.

The Finn & Jake Collab is out too. I contributed the logo and a couple of works, soon to be profile-present. Tis been a good day, groovy times, dual woots. Happy Valentine!

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Doomroar

Wow so that means you have been really active saving and blamming lately? or is that just a recount of your whole saves and blams Mr Supreme Commander sir?

I made my own Uglysaurs!! but how do i save it? http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/5e185677444649e09bac5203a9af638b

Cyberdevil (Updated )

Yeah, I've been acting both saving and blamming and posting and reviewing, all stats are counted. :P What I mean is I am literally taking over the list though. I'm the new updater!! :)

Haha, man that's AWESOME. :D There's no save feature unfortunately, I guess I should figure out how to do that till next year. For now, printscreens are the way! If you make any more send them over, I wasn't planning to but since you posted this I might as well make a gallery on my site... just like last year.

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EPIC news post

Cyberdevil

EPIC comment!

Doomroar

You should help me scouting people is just 3.8k pages!! at 100 pages per day we can get it done in no time! and damn i have seen some awesome guys.
Also i wish i could be more dedicated in my blamming and saving, but is like i have yet to figure out what will be saved and what will be blammed.

Well you know working with hearts is harder than needed, so i don't see myself making more of those XD.

Cyberdevil

You plan on scouting all of them?! I've found some awesome artists too, but to make sure they're not trolls or fakes takes some time... being responsible for their work keeps me from scouting as many as I'd like to.

Well you'll figure it out. :) Just vote what you think it's worth, but if you tend to vote low even for submissions you know others will appreciate, maybe stay above one to get some points. Currently submissions that usually merit a blam are: nooby first flashes, tests and obvious spam. But you already know that right? Looks like you'll be getting to 10k exp in a couple hundred days btw, if you vote on around 40 submissions per day you'll get to 2x10k at the same time!

Hehe, well you made the one awesome one! :) Let's see if anyone else contributes something... I still haven't drawn anything myself btw, stayed up way too late making this yesterday, and now... studies.

1999Elias

It's incredible that you always make simple but awesum games! ^^
Keep up the good work Cyberdevil! :D

Cyberdevil

Glad you liked it man! Leave a review? :P
Will do!

Doomroar

All of them? hell no, just the ones that i see and say: "this bastard is crazy enough, his dementia is worth the risk", also those are hardly fake, because their art is so peculiar, plus most of them have their own pages, others are just starting, i always try to talk with them a couple of time first, http://doomroar.newgrounds.com/favorites/art check the last 14 or so they are all, just incredible, and they don't see like the type of art that is stolen, or user that would do some stupid stuff to get himself banned XD.

Yeah but for example remember all those pacman games? i was death sure those were going to get the blam hammer for sure but no, and there is also the hentai demos, those always pass...

Haha right, not only that, but you should also be working on that second chapter!

Cyberdevil

lol OK, you know what you're doing then. :) That 3,8k pages comment had me a bit preoccupied ya know. :P Most of the unscouted artists with considerable talent are at the beginning, I browsed through a ton of pages further back on a scouting spree once but didn't find anything, some good works, but no users with four good works so I couldn't scout them anyway. Only time scout-worthy material ends up that far back is when a user who's scouted users gets unscouted... yeah, oh wait, that user isn't even scouted yet!! I guess you've sent a request already though?

That definitely looks legit btw. I get a bit cautious when I see new users who submit a load of great art though, without linking to other profiles, without otherwise engaging themselves in the community, sometimes with different signatures in their art than their username. :) You never know you know? Some are easier to 'validate' than others.

Whaaa, Pacman games? I submitted a Pacman game last year. :/ What's wrong with Pacman games? As for hentai, yeah that gets upvoted easily, some forms of content people just can not resist! The blam quota you can get per day is rather limited nowadays, but at least there are plenty of saves... I don't really know how to vote on speedpaint videos btw, I started trying to blam the lot of them cause I feel they have no place here, but they seem to be getting through so... I don't know.

Yeah, that too. Well at least I'm writing something. :P

Doomroar

Yeah i actually favorited users and works to remind myself of all the ones that i see promising regardless if i can scout them or not, and of course comments and PMs to see if they are still active.

Yeah getting unscouted is something i really don't want to happen, that is why i am trying to be as biased as i can XD, but is kinda sad because there are others that you know that they deserve to be scouted, but then you are like "aaaah what if he fucks up and then i have to pay?", also the one that scouted me gets to suffer too i think... damn it is a gamble!

Well i send request to some, with others i am still waiting to see if they are active or not, if they reply or not, but i don't really mind if they get scouted by me or not, as long as they get to be in the art portal.
Well i am certain of the legitimacy of all of them, except for this guy here: http://madiso.newgrounds.com/ however, look at that! is incredible!!! if is stolen art then that is some gusty motherfucker, but yeah unlike all the others i have been unable to either make contact or at least fin him outside NG!

Haha well i had some ulterior motives with speedpaints, so i voted all the initials with 3 or more stars, and nowadays i know they will pass so i gave them 2, man now that i think about it that project went nowhere XD.
As for the pacman games...
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/632849
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/632802
They passed, but i guess they being obvious shovelware made them to get eventually deleted, the problem is that they ALL passed regardless of me voting 0, and then in frustration starting giving 2s XD.

I hope you get the inspiration for an awesome story, with all these somethings haha.

Cyberdevil (Updated )

Aha, guess you keep track of the favorite user activity stream too then? Feels like there's too much content in that box to keep, but that sounds like a good system.

Yeah, it really is! At times I think the rules probably aren't meant to be taken that seriously, they're just there to discourage those who don't have as much to loose and don't mind abusing the system. Some users get unscouted without their scouts being affected, for others (like when Wegra was recently unscouted) a lot of other people go at the same time. So you never know, I guess it's up to chance; which mod does the checking. It'd be great if scouting was automatic so you could scout some old users who don't submit stuff any longer, they'd be no trouble. :P

That 'scouted * users' is a bit of a bragging right though. :) That's a noble way of thinking!

Surely you haven't seen all of them though! Every once in a while there's one who gets all their content purged and is - evidently - a fake. O_o But the ones who submit other peoples work without knowing they're not allowed to are usually easy to spot...

That was one inspiring artwork... real gem. At least the ones with just one work shouldn't be trolls, they can't possible get scouted if they don't submit three more so... that must not be their purpose. :)

What project went nowhere? Hmm... looks like the games you linked to are both gone, what happen? What were they? Who submitted them?! The questions!

All the time. :) The day after I wrote my last chapter I was all out of words though, strange time.... usually the more I write the easier it gets; the faster it goes. When you start stalling that's when it gets harder and harder.

Doomroar

Not really all that clogged, it is all manageable, NG is not really all that active, is sad but is the truth, and since i am biased as it gets i don't have all that much in my fav users, plus some of them are not really active, hell i myself hardly post or update XD.

Nothing worse than a moody mod. Man that would be awesome, automatic scouting, but it would be nice to get in contact with those old users, and to see them active again.
Bragging right? well you scouted Antiskill, who then scouted MisterHerbal, and so and so, dude! that is one hell of a roll!!!!! but you know what? even if is tempting to get that bragging rigth, i still prefer to have them in the art portal, so if you want you can scout the ones i have not.

Well i am only at page 1200, for the ones that i have considered most of them have replied and have pages in other places, like Tumblr or DA, so i get to double-check Madiso and Cebola, are only here, but at least Cebola has been active for at least 2 years, with semi constant upload, and his style seems his own, but who knows maybe he is a con artist that has been undetected for more than 2 years, and "his" art is submitted only here, maybe i get this lucky because i am mostly interested into traditional surreal art and the like, which is not really a popular genre to begin with.

Haha yeah i really don't know what happened with him, and google search isn't helping either.

The project was an idea i was developing with Mr VicariousE about a stream (Twicth style), for art tutorials and speed paints, that could integrate multy cams, real time chat, and art collabs, along with a file converter system, but yeah that never took fly, however the support for speed paints passed, by that time Tom talked about the theme, it was really a coincidence because we had that idea for a month or so before Tom made that post about speed paints, so we saw the success of Speedpaints getting approved as a clue for the stream system to also at least get a consideration, but no luck there was no time or resources, nor people interested and capable to work on it.

The games got deleted http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/6589b14797e22cedc6057a77b8f024e5
Cant remember the user... but the games were all pacman with different screen-loaders, same cheap content XD.

Oh shit, scary stuff, writers block.

Cyberdevil

716 users! Heh, I'd think you'd get a clogged feed too but I guess that's all relative, I pay more attention to other content blocks than that one (P-bot posts and portals) but it's probably a habitual thing... or maybe you spend a bit more time on content than I do. :P

Yeah, it's great seeing old users pop up again after a long hiatus, during that censorship thing last year a lot of old users made an appearance! Twas a nostalgic moment... as for automatic scouting btw, it was that way on the audio portal for a while, but they've modernized that system now. Whaaaat, he scouted MisterHerbal?! Man I need to go check out my scouts... hehe, well I don't know which one's you do scout (apart from the one you just mentioned, which I'll leave be) but I should definately get back to checking the art portal every once in a while, been more on other areas of the site lately.

You probably get that lucky because you've browsed through 1200 pages! Holy shit that's a lot of pages. IOW not luck: dedication and effort. :P

Alas, a lost soul with potential for the portal!

Ah, did you mention that earlier? Sounds somewhat familiar. Seems like a pretty large-scale project, file-converter and all.

Screenshot of irreclaimable Internet history? Awesome. Ah, OK. Yeah shovelware is shit... cept when you're the one in charge of it. :P If I'd kept going like I used to I'd probably see things very differently...

That must've been it!

Doomroar

Actually it is 718 and growing XD, haha well i actually check my feed and it gets like one page per day, and most of those are art submissions, then some movies and games, not really much Audio because i haven't paid that much attention to that portal, then i go to the classic portal and check the under judgement and the blue submissions, sometimes the green ones, then i check the art portal wich usually gets 3 or 4 pages of new content per day, and that's it, that process is divided in 2 times per day, sometimes 3. Really commenting takes more time XD, i am kinda glad of not being on the BBS, that would mean the end of my free time haha.

I have 2 scouts and 3 other pending, funny enough the ones that i have scouted are all traditional artist that make landscapes, and i am not even that much of an still-life, portraits and landscape lover haha. Yo man if you can get in contact with Madiso please do scout him, i don't care as long as i get to see more of him! and well the same holds true for all the others i don't really want to monopolize them, i just want to see more of them.

Lol Hacks!!! http://shaquanzo.newgrounds.com/art what happened here XD.

Oh stop it you! most pages are really madness spam art XD, fan art and hentai, i don't really care for those so it accelerates the browsing XD.

Yeah he is a mystery, and he seems so talented.

Yeah i think i mentioned it earlier, or maybe you saw us talking about it here and there, it did consumed quite a bunch of resources, just the server for the streams was already proving to be a problem, and even to make a beta we would be needing quite a decent server, and then there was the issue of the file converter that had to be coded, the idea was a way to associated various type of files inside one common format, for example imagine saving a .PSD file that can be opened as a .PNG without losing all your filters and layers, but that is also compatible with lets say Gimp, Vicarious wanted to go even further and say that instead of that NG should have its own image editor, but i told him that DA already has one of those, and no one really likes it regardless of how much they update it XD, anyway we got some points out of the way, polished others and were ready to present the idea, and them some stuff happened and it ended unpublished, i hope no other site comes with this before NG can even at least consider it.

Cyberdevil

lol, twas 716 at the time I wrote that comment below. At a pace of two users per day it'll be up at... 1448 in a year! :P Ah, interesting to know the routines of other users. Myself I usually check the portal first thing in the morning, and all new UJ flash, then PMs and the frontpage for any new comments/reviews/forum responses, eventual new news and then: post a comment on the Top 5 of yesterday and watch/review! I repeat the portal UJ process at random intervals during the day, depending on how much new stuff seems to be submitted, if there's a lot of it I probably check more often, probably usually around... once ever other hour? Probably different for different days. If I'm on NG doing other stuff I check back on the portal more often. If there'x extra time (IOW if I really have no time for anything and procrastinate because I should be doing a ton of other stuff): I usually flood the BBS a bit and/or check out newsposts and/or new art in the art portal and/or review a bunch of submissions through KWAS lists of reviews (for some reason I decided to review everything he's reviewed... there's just about 10k submissions left now) and occasionally open up the profiles of all my listed buddies and see if they've posted anything I've missed. I check that content stream on the frontpage just on the frontpage, so I only see the latest four submissions (and thus probably miss quite a bit of food stuff). Occasionally I have these streams of interest for medal games too, and attempt to gain as many as possible, but there's not time for all of this!

Ah, I would scout Madiso if I could! But he only has a single artwork so... well I sent him a PM. If he ever gets back I hope he responds.

Wutt?! It looks like she's still scouted though, so I guess she must've deleted all that stuff herself... that's... odd. O_o

Haha, that's still 1200 quick skims and clicks. :) It is pretty amazing how much Madness art there is btw, you'd think there are so many other popular themes that'd take over like... DBZ, MLP... Flappy Bird. :P

Yeah, that might've been it, might've been VivariousE's profile... though why am I even pondering on how this idea was mentioned in the first place! What matters is I heard it. :P Didn't know DA had an image editor, that's pretty cool! I don't think they did last time I signed in back in... 2006. :P Well image conversions are supported by a lot of programs, but having one of those run on a server is a different thing. I guess since servers run linux it could run as a regular program, but most 'programs' online are really just scripts, no visual interfaces or anything. Maybe we should stop speaking of this secret idea before some huge corporation stumbles upon these posts and steal it. :P

Doomroar

Haha are you defending the spammer? what about my points? do i still get them? what about the blame points that i should have got the first time but didn't? lol, where are ma points!?

Cyberdevil

Haha, spammer is a harsh word! I know what it's like to want to submit a lot of stuff. :P Though back then you didn't even get any profit for submissions, there's a new incentive to get rid of shovelware now (actually there was less incentive to even submit shovelware back then, strange). You didn't get dem points? It should be so that if a submission is removed by mods, users who voted to blam it get their points retrospectively. Least that's how it used to be!

Viper

Interesting to see how much I've gone up in rank.

Cyberdevil

Yeah, you're blazing a trail (though I am way ahead yo)! How about a post in the topic? This topic's been getting less and less attention over the years, would be awesome if it'd get a rise... now that I'm in charge and all. :P

Doomroar

Yo! apparently there was an error mistake while scouting http://jrguillett23.newgrounds.com/ however i can see it all working well for me, but could you give him a check and see if it works for you? and it case he still appears unscouted for some reason... could you scout him for me? the guy is great i checked his DA and he is legit, plus he had this account before http://jjim3.newgrounds.com/ is teh same person, just that a bug happened with his mail, so he had to create a new one.

And your bragging rights can increase!

Cyberdevil

There's a j too much in that second link! :P Yeah, his stuff looks good, and 'scouted by Doomroar' appears in the bold bright oranged range on the arts page. Was that the previously bugging part?

Doomroar

Your routine seems like it takes way more time than mine, no wonder you don't see your feed after doing all that XD.

I hope he replays, i am really intrigued to see more of him.

Hacks, you are hacking the scouting system!!! hahaha.

Dat flappy bird, i personally played the game here on NG, but couldn't spend more than 5 min on it, people they still evade my understatement!

I think it is safe for now, because the video platform in both DA and Tumblr sucks, the streaming on YT sucks, and Twitch has nothing to do with art, so NG kinda has an advantage over the competition right now if it ever decides to go with it, some people are using this http://www.jwplayer.com on Tumblr but i think NG can get ahead of it with ease, plus we propose way more than just a streaming tool, but yeah it is weird because we needed to make propaganda for this but at the same time we needed to be quiet about it, that was also another part of the problem, maybe if we made a lot of noise we could have got more people and the resource through crowd founding, but then there is the danger of the idea getting stolen, i guess cowardice won at the end XD.

Ah but what about my free save points then? lol, but he was an spammer, it was the same thing exactly the same thing over, and over again, the only change was the images on the preloaders and the tittle of the games.

Ah that apparently he wasn't scouted after he accepted, but now it all works, who knows what happened, lol extra J.

Cyberdevil

lol yeah, it takes a while! I still haven't gotten around to reviewing everything that comes into the portal like I'd like to. :P And now it's not just flash anymore...

Yeah, a replay would be cool!

Haha, Hexalists Hearts and Hacks would be a good title is what I'm thinking, completely irrelevant....

The original? Gone now? I wonder how many 'originals' have been submitted in addition to these clones. I actually have an idea for a different kind of Flappy Birds game, but more info on that if/when I get around to making it...

Oh, JW Player seems to have gotten a facelift since I last saw it! It used to look like: http://booki.flossmanuals.net/drupal/_full/static/Drupal-a_b_drupal_swf_2-en.png

And it used to be used everywhere, I've seen it around tons of viral media sites over the years, then everybody started making their own... or making it look like their own maybe, using new skins... well if this was to be for NG how would crowdfunding have worked? Or was it supposed to be a separate site? Well you could use that for resources, but you'd need to get some good programmers on board too! The NG staff doesn't seem to have time for all these new features they're working on already. Btw, looks like Kickstarter was hacked back on Wednesday, they're advising users to change their passwords.

Haha, well it's either one or the other so you can't loose anything. :P Or both, I'd like to think you never lose a point, so if you get a retrospective blam you still keep the save... but who knows. There used to be pretty intense debates on stuff like this back in the day, but things have changed since then and now nobody knows anything or bothers to research it. Ah, that's a difference then! I changed the content and everything, just used the same interface.

Groovy. :)

Doomroar

Oh man what dedication, lately i haven't been able to even get all the under judgement submissions, this new semester has quite the inconvenient schedule, but with time i will get my act together XD.

lol he replies!

You are directly hacking the Hexalists !!? oh my dog!

Yeah it had a link to the Google store and all, i don't know if that was taken down too.
Oh!!! interesting good luck with your game then. (pss make it about puppies!)

Oh it sure looked different back there, or rather said, oh so that was JW player too lol.

It is definitively an idea for NG, crowd funding could be done by the beta testers to get early access to the app, which then they could use for their own interests while they test it at the same time, of course the thing itself is free so after it comes out of beta the guys who helped with funds wont get any other advantage other than the recognition and satisfaction of helping the thing to be made, most of that would be going to the server, and coders who would probably be the regular team of NG liljim, Bren, etc.

And yeah that is exactly what happened! (in big part) the NG team doesn't really has the time to work in such a thing so we didn't publish the idea, Mr. Vicarious stopped me on time before i started harassing the guys with messages about the idea XD hahaha.

So... i get the save points? but it was in his last 2 submissions that i made the compromise of giving him 2s, so do i get all my other 7+ blam points? all for a nice 9+ points of saves and blams? after all even if they passed in the end they got deleted...
Haha, na the content here was exactly the same every single time.

Cyberdevil

lol, don't you know if you're being ironic there? I don't get all UJ submissions either, there's always around ten that pass through while I'm asleep, and some days I'm away from the computer for longer periods of time... and summer. Yeah, we've gotta start becoming real NG actors!

He does?! :O

Well as a matter of fact, I am hacking the hexalist! Will be doing some pretty neat changes on dynamic sorting order for the next one. But that's probably not the type of hacking you meant. :P OMD!

It can't have been submitted by original author or with permission, so it'll probably get taken down eventually if it isn't. lol it won't be about puppies! Sorry! But if you're really interested we could do a collabo effort on that. :P Need to figure out how to code a game like this first though, design's the easy part.

You seen it too!

You could always have perks in the form of credits on some NG-page, maybe the site could finance some supporter-upgrades or some special VIP/kickstarter status for heavy donators, send out stickers as another perk, you know? There's definitely potential. But as far as the regular team, it looks like they have their hands full... aha, k, hutting down topic then, again. :P

Wutt? Blam points even if you voted above blam-score? Unpossible!

Viper

I am? (yeah I know ._.)
Hmm...okay I will. Dunno what to say there though....

Cyberdevil

Hellish yeahs you are! :D (Cyberdevils are always ahead of everyone though)
Awesome. Was thinking of posting the next update with a ton of @included-user-name's to get some more attention to it... the more replies, the more motivating it is to update these things (like that one time Dev was updating and there was only a single reply between updates... can't have been very inspiring! :P).

Viper

Hmm...I see.

That'd be a good way to get more people informed about it and would definitely get more people replying more often to it. Dunno if some people on there are even aware of it's existence. Especially since there are people who could go their entire time on Newgrounds and NEVER post once in the WI/HT? forum.

Cyberdevil

a B -cd-

It's worth a shot! I'm planning on introducing a pretty cool feature with the next one too, so it'll feel worth the shout out. I recall you weren't aware of the list earlier? Or was that some other users? That's true, probably quite a few unawares along with the old and inactive.

Doomroar

Lol, haha forget about the ones that get here when i am sleeping i am talking about the ones i could grab while i check my feed, there is just no time XD.

Na i mean replies instead of replays! but i hope it pays with pies.

A whole different kind of hacking!

To collab for a game requires some commitment and:
"i really cant compromise myself into such a relationship right now..."
"no, don't get me wrong my dear, i do love you"
" what? no there is no other woman! you are the only one!"
"i swear i don't go around telling this to all the girls!"
"is just that this is such a moment in my life, this month has been so rough on time..."
"No i am not making up excuses"
"Girl you deserve way more attention than what i can get you at the moment, and i just cant take the next step..."
"afraid of love? why you have to be like that? you know that i am emotionally diabetic!"
"no i am not avoiding you... baby it doesn't has to be like this!"
So yeah long story short, i don't really have time for collabs XD.

Yeah there are plenty of ways to incentive people to back the project, the team being ready to work on it is another story.

No, no i voted 2 on his last 2 submissions http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/6589b14797e22cedc6057a77b8f024e5 because until that point i was in this barrage of 0s, and yet the damn things were saved, so in frustration of missing out on those free save points i decided to make a compromise.

So the question is the first 7 or so submission which i rated with 0s were originally saved, but then they got deleted, do i then gain those blam points? seeing as i was right from the beginning?
And then what about the last 2 submissions when i went with the bandwagon and voted 2? do i keep those save points?

WI/HT? what is that!? forums? what are those? XD.

Cyberdevil

There's time to check the feed but not the submissions in it? :O

That would be nice; I play with dice.

Like not the type with a pickaxe. :P

One excuse would've sufficed! :D OK. Started on the code for that this morning btw, doesn't seem so difficult to make but... no time to finish it in a while at least.

Aha! if it works as it used to, then yes, you should get blams in retrospect and keep saves you've already received.

lol

Viper

What would that feature be? Or do you plan on keeping that to yourself?
I was somewhat aware of the list. But not like SUPER aware of anything dealing with it.

Cyberdevil

Sortable lists. :) I hope, no promises yet.
Haha, K, well you are now! And soon... the whole world will be! :D

Viper

That'd be interesting. Are you talking like sortable by the different catagories on there?
Like have it so you can sort by who has the most Blam points to who has the least in order that way?

Cyberdevil

Yupp, sortable by all categories that allow sorting... which should be all categories. :) Still don't know if it works in practice but we shall see... usually dynamic tables are stored via a database, but this is all static so I'll be trying out some nifty JS/ajax scripts.

VicariousE

Say, did you get your Mystery box yet? Did you make a thread about it? I'm so forgetful, ask Viper, he'll tell you ._.

Cyberdevil

Oh yeah, at least a month ago. Maybe two? O_o Man time flies... I did take pictures when I received it, should definitely post some. Need to post some yurgenburgen art too!

Doomroar

My feed is not all that big, and is mostly of art submissions, so yeah there is time for that haha.

Dices and freezers and bitter breathers, but i am no gambler so shall not ramble.

So that is the trick to it, using a pickaxe on your screen!

Oh the suspense, but as long as put those puppies in.

Nice so i get all my points!

No really WI/HT? what is that!? lol.

Cyberdevil

Ahh, I think we're speaking of different feeds. :P

I don't bet either, I'm a newborn leader. Don't trust in fate, make your own - don't wait. Or go with neither and be like Beiber. So much at stake, so don't be late, Vampire bait, campfires wait.

I pick up a few 'axe here and there. :P

But there are no puppies! We're all doomed! *hint hint*

Have you noticed how a question with a lol after seems rhetoric? lol. It's Where is/How to if you really are wondering. :P

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