It's Not Summer!

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It's Not Summer!

Posted by Cyberdevil - September 25th, 2018

So I guess vacation time's over?

Looks like the long promised rating update rolled out during my latest leave. The new rating icon size seems aimed way more at mobile than stationary, and of course I miss the old Pico icons, but otherwise: pretty cool. Instant, easy to edit, and those overhauled eulogies too! :D

Seems some recent masterpieces were kicked out of the All-Time Toplists with the removal of anonymous data though, with more-reviewed content taking precedence over high-scoring such, with some very well-deserving ones like this and this no longer on the Best Of at all. I wonder if the system really will bring these back to a more deserved place in time, or if there's just no way to measure up to the massive review amounts some submissions conjured back in the day, and these more recent greats just suddenly lost a gargantuan previously guaranteed slice of future audience gained just by topping that list... but maybe this change will really get people reviewing again? Hope so! And old favorites getting some light again is not bad!

Anyway I'm out of level ups so I'll just conclude this random latest update ramble like this: I'm back! Time to catch up again...

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OatmealPecheneg 2018-09-25 22:15:35

Welcome back! So now we may choose new top entries of all time. This is great.

Cyberdevil 2018-09-25 22:15:35 (Updated 2018-09-26 07:41:28)

Thank you! Well we've always chosen the top ones, but now since the reviews from a time when users reviewed so much more than they do today count over the anonymous votes that amounted since... if you look at the 'Best of All Time' in the Portal for example it seems there are only submissions from ca 2007-2010 there. I just wonder if newer submissions will ever have a chance to reach the same amounts of reviews as submissions did during that pinnacle of user activity, and especially since those old submissions now have the spotlight and will get new views, and votes, whereas newer submissions will only really get a momentary fame via the frontpage, P-Bot posts and followers.

Would be cool if this really boosts user activity though, and gets people digging for favorites instead of just going by the ones that are already there. But there really were a loooot more people here back in the day... will be difficult to measure up to their activity...

TheReviewTrickster 2018-09-26 05:05:28

Yay! I agree with you about how some good stuff has probably been tossed in the back, but I think this has also given some more recent stuff a chance (specifically post-2015) because it now has more votes than some older stuff. I think changing things up is okay, because it gives the new stuff a chance to shine. Anyways, cool that you're back. Bummer you mIssed Madness Day and Double XP Saturday though.

Cyberdevil 2018-09-26 05:05:28 (Updated 2018-09-26 07:51:56)

Woo! That's true, though at the same time content with a larger amount of reviews (anything ca 2007-2009) seems to take precedence over everything else, and new stuff measuring up will be difficult unless activity really rises too... though if it's still based on score I wonder why some so very high-scoring (with high review scores too) submissions were pushed away.... the merge really seems to have shifted things around... either way pretty hyped to see what happens. :) If there is some kind of barrier with old review scores just being way more optimistic/impossible to overcome for newer submissions: I hope they kept that earlier vote data just in case...

Yeah I really hope there'll be more of those! :D And suddenly it's possible to get an uneven EXP amount too. Could maybe settle in at 66,666...

TheReviewTrickster 2018-09-26 14:37:21

@Thereviewtrickster @Cyberdevil yeah, but since I started on a five, I can only get odd numbers. Bummer.

Cyberdevil 2018-09-26 14:37:21

Hmm yeah... can you still do something about that, I wonder? No idea if the extra newsletter EXP works retrospectively or no...

Kieran 2018-09-26 19:01:37

Ayyy i missed you

Cyberdevil 2018-09-26 19:01:37

Ayyy I missed y'all too! Though wasn't a very consistent traditional two-month hiatus this year...

Kolumbo 2018-09-28 05:04:40

Welcome back! Hope you had a great time, yet again!

Cyberdevil 2018-09-28 05:04:40

Thanks man! :) Had plenty of Kairos time, but guess it's all back to Chronos now... lotsa rain/lotsa reading, but some fine, cool, clear-skied sunny autumn days too. Appreciative details all shift with the seasons.

TheReviewTrickster 2018-10-09 16:50:05

@TheBabbleBeast @Cyberdevil Sorry to jump into your discussion, I just thought I should give my opinion. First off, I'm definitely at least a little biased, because I look up to CyberDevil. I don't think a like system would work (especially without dislikes). It's just not specific enough. Without dislikes, the only votes would be from people who don't like the submission. That way, you'd have no way to know how many people actually didn't like it and how many just didn't watch it. This way there's an average that tells you the community consensus. Even with dislikes, it wouldn't work, because a dislike can be anywhere from a zero to, like, a 2.5. Same goes for a like. You have no way to know if people hated it, loved it, or were lukewarm about it. The idea of a "no critique" button feels wrong to me. Everyone should receive critique, whether they want to or not. I am allowed to voice my opinion on whichever work of art I wish. I kinda understand if someone is just doing it for fun and they don't really wanna become experts, but you should still be able to tell them how to make their things more enjoyable for everyone. The idea of a blam free nursery is interesting, but without blams, there would be no point to the judgment system and the rank system would collapse. As for review threads, I don't think there's much need for them, and I feel like they cna get overly long and confusing. As for the threat below the review form, it's simply telling you not to be the guy who says "cool" or "this sucked" or "go die, fag". In my opinion, just saying a couple sentences about what you liked and didn't like is enough, as long as it's telling the author what needs to be improved/they did right. Being rewarded for reviewing would be great though. There's also no way to make a perfect system where users are in control, but I feel like Newgrounds gives us enough freedom and allows us to present legitimate opinions, and I like that. I'm sure there's more I need to touch on, but I'll leave that for tomorrow.

Cyberdevil 2018-10-09 16:50:05 (Updated 2018-10-11 10:19:18)

Hey, always good with new perspectives, and thank you! No worries as far as I'm concerned (hope @TheBabbleBeast doesn't mind). I assume you mean to say that 'Without likes, the only votes would be from people who don't like the submission'? Do agree. It's not all sunshine and rainbows, but at least it's helpful, hopefully. Life's not all black or white. Not all good and bad. Freedoms of the users weighed against the freedoms of the creators. As an artist: of course people will have an opinion on your art. It's good that even negative opinions have a place in the same community; aren't voiced via other channels instead, like it is for artists in more mainstream media. That way the creator does have a semblance of control over their feedback, direct access to it too, and the user should think twice about what they write knowing the creator might take note of their word. The Internet itself is a bit of an issue there when you don't have to face someone to say something to them, but at least this is closer. A bit more personal. A bit more brought for thought.

Well, I think I already said this below with different words... basically: agree with this. If either creator or user's abusive in their exchange then hopefully rules can settle such grievances. More rewards would definitely be good too.

Whatever happened to tomorrow btw? ;)

OneWhoListens 2018-10-09 22:14:38

I am generally thrilled that after all these years you are still such a core NGer.

Cyberdevil 2018-10-09 22:14:38

Always OneWhoListens. :) NG's like a part of my core being now! Thanks.

TheReviewTrickster 2018-10-11 13:42:56

Sorry, I meant, without dislikes, the only votes would be from people who DID like the submission. I hope that makes more sense now :)

Cyberdevil 2018-10-11 13:42:56

I figured. :) No worries!

Klobb17 2018-10-13 02:07:47

Oh shit, I'm a little late to the party but congrats on finally making it to level 60 dude.

Cyberdevil 2018-10-13 02:07:47 (Updated 2018-10-13 05:29:24)

Many thanks good dude! Sure took a while. I mean: to get to that 60.

Void 2018-10-21 06:29:46

Damn, I didn't even realize you had reached level 60. Congrats!

Cyberdevil 2018-10-21 06:29:46

Yeah time flies huh. :) Thanks!

Quisty 2018-10-23 10:35:28

Welcome back and congrats on level 60!!!

Cyberdevil 2018-10-23 10:35:28

Thank you, thank you! Good to be back!

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