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S3C

oops, I meant imports. I meant imports of avocados btw, I reckon you gave me that information before on the other foods...you must have local apples and grapes though too right?

You don't/not able to grow cilantro at your garden? pomegranates are rare huh...just not pomegranate toothpaste ;) avocados are a staple of south america, but only grown in california in the U.S. iirc...They are expensive here too, not because of location but due to their high demand and to a certain degree, for their propensity to go bad. Unfortunately a large part of agribusiness in the U.S. (and much of the world too, I imagine) thrive on artificial inflation :|

Cyberdevil

Ah yeah, avocados... actually have no idea where those come from! Have to check next time I go shopping. We get local apples, grapes don't really grow this far North.

I suppose we could! It's just a bit of an unusual herb in our usual cuisine, could try seeding some next year. Haha yeah, we talked about toothpaste earlier? :P I'm brushing with Aloe right now. Mmm, all about supply and demand huh. I think it's one of the more appreciated vegetables too, least here everybody knows how nutritious it is so it's considered a bit of a luxury. Doesn't work in favor of rinsing the prices. :P

S3C

True, cilantro is a more Asian and Hispanic centric herb. Who knows maybe you could start a trend and be the source of an exotic, rare herb in Sweden...Aloe huh...guess that just leaves ozone for the weird obscure toothpastes for the Cyberdevil to try :P

Nutritious and certainly delicious! Probably one of my favorite vegetables (technically a fruit), but I would rather purchase cheaper produce and wait until they go on sale. The problem with avocados is they have a small window when they are ripe, before they quickly get brown (although still edible) afterwards. If only more people would purchase them when they are hard and green and wait for them to ripen at home...between enough customers fondling the ripe ones are going to leave some of them bruised (and thus get disposed) at some point. That's a problem with agribuisness, mainly as it pertains to grocery and restaurants- practices that propagate waste and over-shipment to first world countries, excess produce is also destroyed to artificially increase the supply and demand...I suppose that's a topic for another day...

Cyberdevil

Haha, that's an idea, though I wonder if it's worth all the work promoting it to make it popular! Cooking's so ingrained in culture already, it's hard to change just like that. Mmmm ozone! I wish I could my hands on such paste! Also gotta try rinsing with oil instead of paste. I hear that's the new thing, way more effective + nutritious + whitening.

Yeah, they're a difficult fruit (though commonly known a vegetable). Seems they sometimes get all wiry too, even when they are ripe and otherwise delicious. Man they waste so much in the food industry! I wish the shops wouldn't take in such a surplus they don't need, but the cold hard truth is that if a shop doesn't have a surplus, people will move to a shop that does. Somehow the excess of food fuels people to buy more than they would otherwise; more than they actually need, as well. We could probably easily cut down the commercial consumption of edible items by half, and not go any hungrier anyway. All that surplus could go to be people who need it, all that excess space could be preserved for the future, not expandably exploited all the time.

Doomroar

If they are organised enough they can perfectly allocate the devices for an entire plot and keep track of all necessary references when they write it out, not all on their mind, but that is pretty much the minimum that people need to have when making a thesis, and really good authors pretty much are making exactly that when they write their books, so you just need to create a journal when you follow the key elements, quotes, references and other aspects of the story, that way if your mind fails you, there is always the written document as backup (also that PFR code(s) idea is excellent!).

Yeah so our planet is the complete product of stars dying, and since our Sun is pretty much alive... well you know the rest XD.

@S3C Avocados are really cheap over here, it almost makes me feel bad to admit this but you can easily buy 10 of them with a dollar on any regular grocery store (at supermarkets each one would cost 50 cents to a dollar, still cheap), and they can last for about 2 or 3 weeks without going brown, is best to eat them fresh, and really i don't know why a normal person/family would buy 10 at once, maybe to make a sauce or something, a bunch of salads... our avocados are really really big so 10 is already quite excessive: http://www.foodrepublic.com/2012/10/18/know-your-avocado-varieties-and-when-theyre-season
If i have to make a guess, the principal one is a bigger variation of the Hall avocado, it is really buttery the seed is not really that big and the skin is rather soft and has an average green tone not too dark not too light, and like with most plantations over here it can be acquired all-year-round, but when it comes to avocados, Cuba is the place, they have some monster avocados the things are insanely big, they are absurd yet delicious.

Cilantro is also really normal, is almost like grass, hell i think you can even see some of those growing next to roads near farms, just there in the wild, for real i just described 2 of the most boring and common plants next to rice and beans XD, what is next tomatoes and lettuce?

Cyberdevil

Yeah, a list of references feels like a must-have for me, I don't trust my memory for cornflakes.

We fed upon the dead remnants of fallen ancestors to become what we became: the place where only we can exist! Planet Earth. True that!

Man if I were you I'd be eating Avocados all days, all ways, breakfast lunch and/or brunch! :D Interesting picture of avocado types, I think the one we get here is Hass or Macarthur, if there aren't other similar types. Don't think I've tried any with that smoother surface texture.

Don't say you have tomatoes and lettuce growing in the wild over there too? :O There are definitely some benefits of living in Colombia man!

Doomroar

Maybe not for cereal but does it works for memory sandwiches?

Oh man so we are a bunch of stellar necrophages!?

Everyday? maybe once or twice a week, but everyday and you grow bored of them... well that is not to say that there are people eating them everyday, mostly on salads, i guess that way you could have them everyday just fine.

Hahaha na the only one growing on the wild is the cilantro, but if you go to the wild wilds, chances are that you will get your ass kidnapped... definitively not worth the free cilantro XD.

Cyberdevil (Updated )

Hmm, it's like trying to remember a serial... not sure!

That's what we are?! That sounds pretty... badass!!

I think it'd take a long time to get bored of Avocado! There's so much you can do with them. All types of salads, sauces, stews, mixed up with shrimps, majo, on sandwiches... yeah, salads, mostly. I used to eat this awesome sandwhich in Costa Rica with Avocado mush, tomato and eh... that's all I remember of it. But it was delicious! Wouldn't mind eating one of those a few days each week at least.

Sounds like even wild Cilantro can get pretty expensive over there!

S3C

No need to promote, just give sneak somebody cilantro, and it will spread quickly and widely, like crack! Although there's a frighteningly large group of people that absolutely abhor the stuff: www.ihatecilantro.com (freaks)

lol what?? hygienic practices aren't meant to be nutritious!

yep, that's a great point about containing a food surplus will correlate with profit increases...another reason why I'm starting to dislike capitalism more and more each day...

@Doomroar
check your southern hemisphere privileges dude...I'm an avocado junkie. I would definitely buy 10 at once, of the large ones (probably the equivalent of around 40 Haas avocados). I would eat them straight until I got sonic diarrhea, then use the rest to cover my delicate, nude Indian body while I drink hard liquor until I pass out...Is that an American dollar btw...Haas avocados are tastier than the large ones in general (they have higher salinity and lipid content) but even a dollar here is considered a reasonable price for just 1 avocado that's considerably smaller in size, put them up for 50 cents and people will fight to the death over them.

Depends what lettuce and tomato cultivars you are referring to..purple, chocolate-brown, and green heirloom cultivars are relatively rare...and don't even get me started on lettuce!

Cyberdevil

Protests against herbs?! Man that's going too far!

They add all types of strange things in toothpaste to benefit the teeth, feed the enamel, etc. Some pastes that heal bleeding gums and stuff like that. Why not combine the best of both worlds? ;) Imagine eating a snack and brushing your teeth at the same time! Could be the next big thing!

Mmm. Disliking capitalism since... probably since I had to give away a box of VHS tapes cause I had no room for them. :/

lmao XD Cheap avocados go for around half a dollar here btw.

Mmm, lettuce not delve too deeply into such serious matters.

Doomroar

Word i can hardly remember my own phone numbers.

But is also kind of nasty.

Green sauce is indeed great!

Just get it from the store XD.

@S3C
Was... was that an avocado sexual fantasy? what have i read just now!?

Yeah american dollar, currency exchange and all that, since they are already quite big it doesn't sound that wild to buy one for a dollar, even if you can get 10 of the same on the streets, but well you know brand adds "value" to things, stupid i know, but that's how people work.

Maybe they were all kidnapped while they tried to get some free wild cilantro, and that's why they hate it now? XD.

Cyberdevil

They say it's easier if you remember everything as images. Like, imagine a 1 being this giant shape, like a rectangle... with a little triangle on the upper left! How's that? :P

Mmm.

Yupp!

And they have even more in store! :D

lmao, that explains it.

Doomroar

Not really working for me the image go way too detailed XD.

Boxes upon boxes of stored cilantro, the cilantro haters worst nightmare!

So there you go the secret to great films is a great OST, didn't we mentioned that before when we talked about anime OSTs? XD.

Oh that theme just appeared today in one of the expositions, how things like emotional intention and musicality are lost in a textual format, it was a conference on therapy towards kids with PDD.

Cyberdevil

Hah, maybe if you have numbered images for the image numbers of the number images? :P

A daydream to anyone else!

We did? Well, there goes my memory again. :P Music overall has such a big impact, on everything.

Ah, so... what was the conclusion/solution? Maybe we should have short loops to play for different segments of a story, to strengthen the mood...

Doomroar

But then i would need numbered images of the image numbers of the number images for those numbered images of the image numbers of the number images.

Cilantro heaven.

Yeah you talked about how the Mai HIME OST was so important to you, and then i said that i was not feeling it for an action oriented anime, and then you said that it has to be seen along with the anime, and so, and so. (yeah i had to check the PMs, my memory is not that good)

The solution to the inability for musicality and emotion to be transmitted on a textual format? none, indeed part of the conference was to demonstrate that very inability, since it was an exposition about therapy an methodology and you don't work with kids using textual mediums precisely because that big part of the communicated data is lost, then he didn't went on that direction because it was irrelevant on the big picture, however maybe if an exposition on cognition is given today, i could ask them that question, which reminds me i am going late... which is quite bad because i will miss the second half of the conferences since i have my Japanese class es in the afternoon... i am drinking coffee to skip on sleep (that's the reason i am still awake on the inter-webs), i can no longer brag about being drug free T_T.

Cyberdevil

So with the numbered images of the image numbers of the number images for those numbered images of the image numbers of the number images it would work!

Could be the new slogan for Columbia. ;)

Ahh yeah I remember that discussion. You mentioned some jazzier soundtracks like Baccano and Cowboy Bebop... we concluded our musical tastes slightly differ on the topic of anime OSTs!

That one indeed. Ah, I thought it'd be about the potential for somehow strengthening those emotions even in textual work, through therapy. Kinda depressing verdict then. :/ Conference as in lecture? Time in columbia seems to be... 8 AM? How long have you been awake?! O_O

Doomroar

But chances are that i will need some numbered images of the image numbers of the number images for those other numbered images of the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images.

I don't know, i haven't played BioShock infinite yet.

I did mentioned Cowboy Bebop, but! i have never seen Baccano, and thus it was impossible for me to be mentioning the series, it was you the one who talked of it, and i think it was not the most hyped soundtrack, so chances are that i will not watch any Baccano in the future, i mean it didn't looked all that interesting to start with (to me), and then CyberD tells me that the OST ins't all that, so yeah there aren't all that much incentives for me to watch Baccano XD.

Yeah well the thing is that to communicate with those kids is already quite hard in person, and while is true that some can be more responsive by using digital mediums like texting to communicate, it has the problem that it remains flat (to the point that teenagers nowadays will take you way too seriously or even sense aggression if your messages lacks any emotes), but it is text really impossible to transmit these things? no, the problem is that you would need to redesign writing itself, creating new parameters to indicate things like speed, tempo, rhythm, feeling, and melodies, it is doable you could establish things like font size, font style and different kinds of punctuation, as a way to symbolize when and how a particular thing should be read, now that is a little bit imposing on the reader, but that is the whole point here, to minimize ambiguity, however that is not practical at all as a therapy, specially with these kids which are dependent on routines and stability, but it could work for other people though.
Yeah yesterday and today we had a series of expositions both national and international on different topics inside the fields of psychology.

And today also started Hip Hop al parque 2014, the biggest hip hop event in Latino America, a fucking pity that it takes place in Bogota, because those bastards are fucking zombies, they lack emotion, they show the levels of excitement that a decomposing cadaver would, really they put not only the country but the whole continent in shame, i hate them so much, i really don't feel Colombian at all.

Cyberdevil

Maybe make a numbered todo list with the numbered images of the image numbers of the number images for those other numbered images of the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the image numbers of the number images for those other numbered images of the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the number images for those other numbered images of the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and those other numbered images of the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the number images of the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the first numbered images of the image numbers of the number images and the image numbers of the number images and the number images?

Argh, I keep typoing that! Sorry, Colombia.

lol, I remember now that... it was I who mentioned Baccano as something that sounded like Cowboy Bebop. :D That memory! Yeah, it wasn't an incredibly memorable anime, but it was pretty fun. On par with... say Black Lagoon, Gungrave and Trigun. Well maybe not Trigun.

Interesting notion! We do use certain formats to ease expression, not just forms of punctuation, but pauses, sentence length etc, along with things like bolding and italicization. I feel like if you read a lot, these simple motors all amplify the meaning of the text, the emotion, mood, atmosphere etc. But the problem is, apart from inexperience, that the impressions you get from regular formatting is also very subjective. Not everyone will pick up the same clues, in for example how a certain word being bolded could hint at a strengthening of some intention linked to previous use of that word. Though new structures would seem foreign at first I don't think it'd be any different from learning a language. After a while it becomes so automatic that you don't notice it, like how you pause without placing any focus on the pause for things like paragraph shifts, etc. Might cause some problems with the freedoms in typographical design though, we'd start misunderstanding older works, and it'd be easy to 'design' things the wrong way and cause the wrong impressions if you don't have sufficient knowledge of typographical significance. Well, to conclude: I think it's a working system that currently is. Though that doesn't say anything about the therapeutically aspects of it... don't think I want to get into that. Seems difficult.

If only those decomposing cadavers could zombify the emotional levels would soar! :P Hip Hop al parque sounds awesome at least. Do you have any Columbian hiphop artists/groups you'd recommend listening to btw?

Doomroar

Haha got you! copy pasting my text doesn't works in this case without any edits, because what seems like a spiral reasoning becomes a circular one thanks to this here: "numbered images of the image numbers of the number images of the first numbered images" the first numbered images, is the starting set of numbered images, and it should appear only at the final of the chain, however it is plastered all over the sequence in your reply XD.

Haha.

Oh then maybe i will give it a watch some day.

Oh but bolding and italicization are to signify importance, you can't really express a feeling with them, neither the tempo in which a rhyme should be read, i definitively don't think that it is a working system that currently is, for example if i where to write:

"DU. DUDUDU. DUDUDU. DUDUDU-DUDU-DUDU-DUDUDU-DUDU. DUDUDU. DUDUDU-DUDUDUDUDU, DUDU-DUDU-DUDUDUDU-DUDUDUDU."

And then i tell you: "That's darude-sandstorm but i changed part of it."

Can you notice what i changed?
Would bolding and italicization help you in this?
Even if the rest was also using bolds, italics and underlines and not just the part i changed?
Now what if i told you that it was never Darude-Sandstorm, but other song, can you discover which song it was?
Would bolding and italics help you on that?

I highly doubt it, specially without prior agreement of what bolds and italics are supposed to point towards, but who knows maybe you are a genius empath (which explains why you can do this with text, people can't even read feelings accurately even irl, example: The girlfriend seems avoidant, is she mad, sad, annoyed or just tired? accurately get the answer without asking her and just by looking at her current body expressions, i would fail that XD (uses an emote, i shouldn't tho)), also what is the tone of my voice as i write this? am i serious, enthusiastic, sleepy because i just wake up? was the emote i used before helping you to get this answer or was something i deliberately planted to misguide you?
And was i talking fast or slowly?
Are these questions coming fast one after the other, or slowly and well spread giving you time to answer them?

Haha but yes, like i told you, to make such a system is doable, complex (lost) but doable, and it wont really get in the way of our understanding of older works as long as we get in the context that those are older works and thus don't use the system.

Cyberdevil

Argh, fatal mistake! I even proofread that part. :C

Yupp, could be worth it! Some day when no greater things cloud the visionary spectrum!

I'd argue that it depends on how it's used. if for example two people are having a dialog, and one of them is shouting on boldened text, wouldn't that be strengthening the impact/emotion of their words? IOW their feelings. Of course the words have a bigger impact than how they're stylized, but style helps amplify their implications/importance. Tempo's much harder to adjust overall, but, with pauses, you can adjust it, to a certain extent. Like this. Right?

Ehm... using words to document a melody is difficult enough regardless of structure. Maybe we're speaking of different things here... I was considering the implications certain formatting would have in regular text, like a story. I'm getting totally misguided by your theories here. :P As for the emoticon though, if you're intentions to misguide, of course I wouldn't understand it. It'd be like me writing asdfihiurgsg and assuming people know it's code for This Text, without giving them the code. Code as a metaphor for these structures we're speaking about here. I can't read an emotion an author doesn't actively seek to convey, but how is reading the emotions of people outside the text relevant to anything? Ifyouwanttotalkfastyoucanpaceitlikethisbecausethepausesbetweenwordsareactuallyinterpretedsimilarlytolinebreaksorparagraphspaces, but that'd be difficult to read. Questions are definately faster when there's less space between them, and the shorter they are, so to some extent the formatting's working fine! But I feel like this is getting sidetracked...

Mmm, but even if we know older works are to be read differently, we would with time adapt to the new system and start reading them with the same expectations as any other text. It'd be like trying to read a book in old English today, it just sounds weird! The language is constantly evolving of course, but I think adding such drastic structure changes into that evolutionary progress would be like adding a wall between the old and new. And the more time progresses, the higher it grows!

Doomroar

Man i managed to get all that on one message, now lets add this thing, we would need to include typographical rules, not as emotes or symbols like !, for the whole emotional spectrum, and that spectrum has to be universally agreed upon, and now the thing got even more complex.

Colombian groups let see:

Zona Margina (a political, well if is colombian hiphop it will have something to denounce anyways... my fav national group):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gAHhyLyA6Q
This one takes some time to start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apHcV7wwlIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGW_mWuS0Ck

Chocquibtown (probably the most well known group, they are the face of the country, a well deserved position):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNfxjZT_hnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reB4YLs-49U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paIgYBbYsyw

Tres Coronas (despite the name one of them became a sold out, so they are only 2 MCs now, gangsta rap.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kez_gj8aQ-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q51RkP_mKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy4pvev96_U

La Etnia (mix 3 coronas and Zona marginal, and you have these guys, but they are older than 3 coronas, these are the beginnings of the movement in the country):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89AWwIo0vVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzBPgKJdfFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFehBcJ04f4

On this HH al parque we got some new guys so far this one got most of my attention:
Rimas Pesadas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGMJZRTD15I

Anyway as you can see just by comparing Chocquibtown with lets say 3 coronas, the styles change a lot from region to region, our movement is highly varied thanks to the many cultures that we have, from blacks to the natives, whites and immigrants, and this list is just not representative at all, there's a myriad of things left that not even i know.

BTW here you can see the livestream of the event plus a list of the artists http://colombiaund.com/eventos/hip-hop-al-parque-2014/414
This one has a bigger video player http://new.livestream.com/canalcapitalbogota/canalcapital
the drafts are the same, but the time changed so it starts again today at 16:00 that would be 23:00 for you XD, when they are not covering the event it transmits normal public television.

Cyberdevil

Yeah man, that stuff's just too complex. :/

Ah nice, let's see...

Zona Margina - I like their vibe! And that last one was a different touch, bit like reggaeton. I'm getting the impression Colombian's a difficult langage to rap in, hard to find rhymes, hard words, but maybe this group just doesn't place so much importance on rhyme....

Chocquibtown - Woo, I like these guys vibe even more! Has that South American sound I remember from groups like Mana, bongo drums, melodic vocals and everything. A lot more song too. First one's probably my favorite of these three. Impressed they're on Vevo!

Tres Coronas - Almost caught that first phrase completely. :D Nas said that hiphop died, maybe, but when one thing dies... something something... stronger! I liked the first one most, rock influences and all. Other two sound a bit like Cypress Hill style. Even some English in there. :P

La Etnia - Classic, classy, basic, bossy... not bad!

Rimas Pesadas - Now this was awesome. :D

Ah, thanks for those links, I'll have a peek if I'm online at the right time. :) Got a glimpse of some Columbian culture for now, some guy driving around on one of those bikes with a cart at the front, zigzacing between banana stands, kissing some banana worker I assume was his wife... hmm... wonder what that was all about...

Doomroar

Haha yeah writing it all without spaces is a sense post read of velocity, but as you read it you actually slow down because you have to decipher what is written there.

Reading the emotions of people outside the text is relevant because is a form of communication that existed before written media, and after so many years we haven't mastered outside some really privileged and talented authors, and some other social persons, so now try to do the same but in a text, that's my point.

Yeah.

You know if you compare Hip Hop to reggaeton which is seems as music for prostitutes (literally they even have a very common word known as perreo, nasty shit), you will get punched in the face, because it is one hell of an insult, with that said, yeah i can see the similarities on the beat, and only that.

Man i forgot Asilo 38, shame on me they have to be here on this list, Asilo 38 is a classic of Colombian Hip Hop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8dQUBIPd88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaG4ZtISJOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycgZJ8bI8VY

But when one thing dies, "Nace algo mas fuerte" something stronger is born.

No idea, it is a crazy country, who knows what they may show, but that is one of the most decent channels we have, which is why the former president calls them "terrorist sympathizers", because they show things as they are, which of course is bad for that corrupt bastard that should be in jail.

Cyberdevil

True that. :) I probably read it faster since I knew beforehand what I'd written...

Well, what I mean is: a good author should be able to convey the emotion within the text. Or mean you mean like the emotional effect you get when someone's telling the story verbally? I do agree there.

You don't like reggaeton over in Colombia? :O I'll keep that in mind. Hehe, yeah!

Asilo 38 - Nice, specially the third one! Sounds like some political rapping in that last one, more gangster rap in the first two. What does Asilo 38 mean btw? I understood the previous names, kinda.

Aha, wasn't getting that Nace part. Good knowing! Former president? New one's OK with it? Mmm, I didn't get to catch any music yesterday btw, maybe something's on right now...

Doomroar

Yeah.

That's kinda my point, but i am talking more of day to day communications, but yeah that works too.

The Colombian youths love regayton (reggaeton), but that doesn't means that the shit is any less wrong just because it is popular, think of it as porno-rap, the only decent reggaetonero to have existed was Calle 13 from Puerto Rico, and he no longer makes reggaeton, so yeah.

It meas Asylum 38.

The new president is actually a disciple of the former one, matter of fact he was his Defense minister, but they are currently "attacking" each other over ideologies, the former one wan'ts to war its way towards peace, and the current one wants to make peace talks, and is actually kinda making them, other than that they are the same thing, the current one is OK with it because it helps its image of the lesser of 2 evils.

Cyberdevil

Glad we agree! :D

Personal opinion huh. :P Think we might've talked about that earlier... I rarely ever listen to reggaeton myself, but it's just cause I'm hooked to a select few genres already, haven't stumbled upon any I didn't like... yet.

Aha!

Aha.

Doomroar

Maybe because you don't understand what they say, otherwise i would have to call you a slut XD.

Cyberdevil

Only artist I could recall by name was Daddy Yankee, looking up some lyrics aaand Google Translate:

Hold on, little girl, hold on
Feel my partner ELVIS rising
You slash down there and puts you sata
See if you kill your bellakera

That uhh sounds a bit suspect yeah. O_o

Doomroar

All his songs are about the same, with the variation of him bragging about his money or guns, then it loops, and they have the same beat.

Cyberdevil

Future of reggaeton doesn't look too bright!

Doomroar

It's future was Calle 13, and they no longer do regayton XD.

Cyberdevil

So there is no future! :C A lot of groups with numbers in their names over there btw.

Doomroar

Haha i guess.

Cyberdevil

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