Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 04:02:46

Hmm, if Freud had been a gamer, I wonder which games he'd have played...

I still haven't played through the N64 version, got stuck on some level and since there was no way/I didn't know any cheat codes I gave up. :/ It's pretty cool how it's completely different from the original games though, in level designs, textures, physics, the whole package! Graphically it's superior to the original games, but some of the original characteristics were lost in the process I feel, maybe it's just the level design that isn't as flawless. As for the originals, I started out playing everything on Hurt Me Plenty but now Ultra Violence is the standard. Nightmare is still too big of a challenge to be fun. I did complete the first episode on Nightmare but it took waaay too long; at the end it wasn't worth it, it wasn't my type of fun. You should definitely get into the original games though if you have time/want, especially the first game is just perfectly designed... IMHO. With a port like GZDoom or Risen3D it's not so old anymore, you can mouse aim, move with WASD... even jump if you want to... though that'd make it a bit too easy to take shortcuts and cheat. :) Dynamic lighting and such is pretty much standard with all ports that aim to enhance the game.

Ah. ok. Guess I'll get to that eventually, a whole lot of other games in the way before I get to the original Far Cry...

I haven't tried GTAA yet! Need to get my hands on that. I thought about getting GTA Chinatown Wars for DS but for some reason never did, settled for Advance Wars instead and that's going to last me an eternity... As for GTA, I think I like the street-view better than top-down though, but it's a real shame they stopped including top-down view in all new GTA games, it'd be a fun alternative! GTA 3 was actually pretty easy to navigate with top-down, not at all as limited as it was with 1 & 2.

Sad to hear Left for Dead has a bullshit ending, but since I'll probably never get to play it (unless a PC port is made) I won't grieve too much about that loss... at least the trailers looked amazing. Sounds a bit like Chaser btw, I loved that game all the way till the end. I don't even remember how it ended now... one I wanted to forget I guess. :/

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 04:36:47

Tat Frickin Welshman? Only acronym that seems to fit in. :/

You mean you have neither? Doom seems to run pretty well on all machines though, PC, Mac Linux, 20 y/o laptops... with the right port it always works! :)

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 06:36:06

Meme arrows??? Meme acronyms??? Me > memes...

There are tons of WADs for Doom though, endless variations! :) How about GOG games though, or newer stuff like Cave Story and 8-Bit Killer? Emulators are actually pretty resource-intense, I can easily run PC versions of PS2 games on my old PC, but to emulate the PS2 versions without lag... not even my new 8-core 2GB GPU gaming rig can do that lag-free! It does feel awesome to finally be able to catch up on games I've been missing though, like Resident Evil 5 and GTA 4, haven't been able to play any new games for the past six years... before this year. Invest in a second-hand custom build maybe? They come pretty cheap.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 13:46:17

What's with all these angle brackets? :N

Indeed. Well I'll probably be able to emulate any consoles prior to the PS2-gen flawlessly now, but considering emulation is running a separate OS in a sandbox environment it's not strange that it'd usually use a lot of resources... never tried GameCube or Wii emulation, maybe they're lighter.

Compared to modern shooters Doom is pretty basic. The AI are predictable, but even if you know their patterns, avoiding their attacks mainly depends on your reaction speed and I guess also knowledge of the levels. You never know around which corner a monster will be waiting... though I pretty much know the original levels on the back of my hand so it's not the same experience now, not as many surprises... will be fun to try Brutal Doom with some new WADs though! :) Even lower than Hurt me Plenty!!? :O

I'm missing out on a lot of games. :P If I spot GTA for GBA I'll get it, they seem to be pretty rare though.

Oh man, wrong titl... I mean yeah, of course, genius!

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 14:25:59

You heard the track? :P

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 14:32:29

So dope I don't even worry.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 17:18:31

I know time. The enforcer of all problems! The demotivator of all days! The one that runs and makes you wait! Good idea.

Yeah, it's a shame to see NG letting go of their stance on freedom like this, though I guess the whole debate wouldn't have sparked up in the first place if a post wasn't made about it ... so I wonder what other less-mentionable offensive content has been removed that I don't know about (like the Anita game, apparently). Just woke up and it looks like I have 11 new pages of pretty hardcore posting to go through! This topic is really changing my views about some users too, for good and bad.

:)

Cyberdevil 2013-11-18 23:27:34

Humm, I've never actually read anything on 4chan apart from the news and occasional Q and A with moot, just waded through the visual content. Doesn't seem like I'm missing much though, regular conversation > meme speech... IMHO! :L

Huh, have you tried the Brutal Doom mod? Adds quite a bit of replayability. I just ran through the original two games last week, twas a new experience. Do you use a port btw? Have you gone through all of Doomworlds Top 100? Can't remember if we talked about this earlier... I guess the TCs aren't all so great though, somehow the graphical styles of other games seems to degrade with time even though Doom does not. GB/GBC/GBA emulator maybe?

No answer to that previous question btw... have you tried anything through GOG.com? There's plenty of both classic and newer indie games that don't require a particularly strong computer to play. On the weekends they have sales with discounts around 50% on a select few (prices occasionally as low as $2/game), occasionally other fun campaigns to celebrate an occasion... like the insomnia sale right now where they sell out selected titles in limited batches, at really low discounts. The sales ran rampant at first, hundreds of copies of each game running out in minutes, but they've gone another two rounds since then so it's slowed down a bit. :) Games like... Deus Ex, Shadow Man, Postal 2, Tales of Monkey Island, Aquanox, Leisure Suit Larry, PID, Fex, Anodyne, Evoland... lots of good stuff! It's become a bit of an addiction for me, 18 games last week. -_- In total they probably didn't cost more than $20-30 though.

Yeah, that's definitely a good thing (the saving money option). Newest game I've played with friends is Wii Mario Kart, so I guess I'd feel out of the loop too with multipöayer... but I'm slowly catching up on the next-gen games... God of War isn't that old btw! If your computer can run that there should be plenty of fun stuff available... how about the Serious Sam series? GTA SA? Bio Shock? Yeah, prices for new games are just ridiculous... which is why I pretty much never buy new titles. If I do it's got to be at a discount, or digital.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-19 04:22:46 (Updated 2013-11-19 04:59:09)

Yeah, Urban Dictionary did have that one too, but it didn't really fit in. :) Thanks for the lesson in new angular bracket use! I'll stick to textual emoticons though, the :? and -_- have a much more graphical effect, no need to know which image to conjure when it's typed out.

Basically it makes the game much more brutal and difficult, new gibs and animations, new blood effects, new death scenes (like how a Hell Knight can on occasion rip an imp in half), enemies not always dying when they go down, but crawling after your or shooting sporadically from a slumped down position. You can also move barrels, they have a bigger blast radius, some enemies are much more dangerous than they used to be (the Mastermind's machine gun is more like a gattling gun now), etc. You'll need a ZDoom compatible port to play it though, like GZDoom ( www.osnanet.de/c.oelckers/gzdoom/index.html ). The mod itself doesn't alter the MS-Dos type graphics, but the port does enhance them, with stuff like dynamic lighting, 3D floors, etc... nothing new, just atmospherically improved (all of this can be disabled in settings though). If you use GZDoom, you just need to drag the mod file (PK3 file) to the port EXE and it'll run, a list of available IWADs (those should be placed in the GZDoom directory, it's a portable port) will pop-up, allowing you to choose which game to play. Easy as pie. Brutal Doom should work with all doom IWADs/WADs (though I have no idea how it works with mods using custom graphics, like TCs, haven't tried any other than the originals yet).

Brutal mod page btw: http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom

Oh, so maybe you haven't tried the Doomworld list? There's some great megawads available: http://www.doomworld.com/10years/bestwads/

I agree user-made WADs are often better than the originals, the Serenity/Infinity/Etc series is great, and Phobia, Scythe... lots of good stuff! But maybe you've already played all of these?

Woooah... such profit lost! :( I had a Freelancer account a few years back, had one job, and then just let the balance lie on the account. Turns out Freelancer automatically deletes funds from inactive accounts after a year so... that sucked. Won't make that mistake again. I don't know how it is where you live, but here it's easy to get a credit card for free, banks like GE Money (maybe that one's international) give you an account free of charge, and no transfer fees, as opposed to paypal who take (I think it was) 3% on each transfer.

Half a decade ago huh... Doom is over 20 years old and I'm still having a fun time with it. :) I occasionally have some fun with Oni too, from 2001. With mods the games aren't so old any longer. Portal and Bio Shock are both 2007 games, both amazing games. Did you ever try Alien Hominid for PS2 btw? True technology moves at lightspeed, but it's not all about graphical quality IMO, some games are just timeless.

As for gaming culture, I've probably never been much of a part of it. I had a chance to try WoW when it came out but didn't, I have no interest in LOL, I think the Skyrim trend's blowing out of proportion... the GOG community is one I could find myself being a part of though, people dedicated to classics and replayability than just going with the hype, but for now I just play for personal satisfaction.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-19 04:59:33

Thanks, that post went through a bit of revisioning before I posted it, don't want to seem insensitive but this censorship is just all for the worse to me. I'm contemplating posting a newspost titled Censorship, just saying "Fuck Censorship", it feels like this is one of those topics that requires taking a stand, it could irreversibly change the future and fate of this site! Yeah, he has a big responsibility, and I don't know what my decision would be if I were him, but there should be a way to actually work this out rather than just give in and get rid of the game. Seems more like a mid-life crisis than a chrysalis...

It's either Steam or GOG, they're like two fractions of the gaming scene. :) Love Humble Bundle too.

True, was going to say the ones that don't run are probably available on GOG but they're integrating DosBox with their releases so that's emulation too...

Cyberdevil 2013-11-19 05:27:17 (Updated 2013-11-19 05:51:37)

I've never tried plain ole ZDoom (at least not in a long time), but GZDoom is based on the former so I guess it should work fine! Well the cacodemons still only shoot in one direction, but they shoot dual bursts, i think. They can also bite you in the back if you let them get too close, IMPs jump on you if you let them get too close, Demons seem to bite you from a little further distance too... oh, Hell Knights do occasionally fire double or triple plasma bursts instead of just one! Maybe that's the one you're thinking of?

Well true, but you'll notice the difference if/when you play, the impact is greater, it feels more like a gattling gun than it used to! I think it deals more damage too. Nope, bullets aren't guaranteed to hit, but you do need to be quick(er).

All of those in the list are megawads! With a few exceptions, maybe. I'm more for megawads too, haven't played many single WADs but there are probably some great ones out there.

Oh, didn't know PS2 games were gone! Shame. I sold my PS2 a while back though so I haven't been on the look out... managed to get Alien Hominid for the PS2 years ago, so I saved that game at least, I'm thinking I can emulate it on PC if I ever feel like playing. :) Personally I feel the PS2 is a bit of an outdated console though, there are some great games but they can't be modded or have their settings increased, so unlike the PC versions (like Oni, which was also released for PS2) they don't have the same re-playability value... especially the ones that tried to be nex-gen at the time and end up looking like crap a decade later. It sucks how new consoles rely so much on online support for their games btw, unlike the classics they're really becoming time-limited releases, whenever Sony decides to stop supporting the PS4 that's it... unless hacks.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-19 16:58:12

Yeah, it's both good and bad, good for the site; bad for the site... some news coverage might've brought in a stream of new users and made it a worthwhile investment in the long run... or advertisers could've been upset and made it a larger loss than it was worth. There's really no best way, or only way, and users really have no rights anywhere on the net unless they are allowed that right (I'm glad we have the right to express ourselves in words), but still this is that one place that has stood strong in the face of tyranny and injustice throughout the years... and now this. It really shouldn't be such a big deal, but this game is like a symbol for our own potentially offensive creations, and when it's taken down like this (lawlessly, not by policy), then anything can be taken down. At least that's how I feel... good words btw, I agree, nothing to counter.

In a way this turned into a great PR stunt anyway, the topic is sparking a huge debate, slumbering users are waking up, other controversial forms of content are popping up in the portal in response... it's almost that I wonder if it was all planned. O_o

Heeey, it's made in Flash too! That's pretty awesome. The name sounds familiar so I'm thinking I may have stumbled upon it earlier... thanks for the link though, will keep it bookmarked. Yeah, I've been to Desura too, another site I frequent quite a bit is ModDB, and then there's Abandonia for older games, and a couple of my favorite game makers: Loco Malito and Pixel.

You've tried it? All I knew is that it was an MMORPG... and I'm not risking getting addicted. :)

Well said! Though as for Angry Birds that was a pretty fun game.. played the web version(s). In a decade or two generations who grew up on these games will consider them classics, and what will he have then? It's good to see not all modern games require graphical superiority to be elevated to fame. Angry Birds; Minecraft were both great ideas at their inception (and one of them's even Swedish :D), they've just received a crazy fanbase, become a part of culture more than they are actually completable games... and as far as Minecraft goes that's pretty much an MMORPG too so nothing for me...

Guess that's why they call them timeless, you forget time when you play them. :)

Cyberdevil 2013-11-19 19:23:09

True that. I'm glad Tom posted about it too. Even if he's probably not so happy with all the negative responses that are popping up, that was the right thing to do... at least the censorship isn't censored. :P

Ah, k, no AI at all? It's all multiplayer? Haven't played DoTA either, just heard the song. :)

I'm mostly there for the mods... as the name implies it's great at mods! The Brutal Doom mod is housed there, along with the Oni Anniversary Edition, some great GTA total conversions, the Max Payne mods mentioned earlier... well I'm running a rather limited set of games with mods, but it looks there are mods for everything. Serious Sam too.

Yeah, it's a huge resource if you like old games! There's also Abandonia Reloaded, a spinoff project focused on Indie games. Also myabandonware.com and caiman.us (the latter looks a bit unprofessional, but they have a huuuge selection of free games, and many that aren't available elsewhere).

There's a movie?! I definitely need to see that... I mean, that's crazy. :P I've seen Angry Bird candy, pillows, all kinds of merch... they must be earning a fortunate off of it. True there are plenty of great alternatives here on NG, but the fact that Angry Birds was the first (at least I'm under the impression it is?) should stand for something. :) Personally I like Angry Birds more than Crazy Animals, it's just more fluent somehow, the level design seems flawless in comparison. I understand why people like it, but apart from the games themselves there's way too much hype. Well it's not a classic yet!

Lego's for all ages. Digital lego... at least it's a good thing Lego didn't come up with the idea first, they're rich enough as is. :) Well true, but plenty of classic games have had sequels made off them, like Mario, Tetris, etc.. it's the originals that become classic IMO. Games like Doom 2 and HL2 are rather odd in that they are both sequels and classics, most series don't have the same attribution.

Definitely! Timeless gaming FTW.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-20 20:47:26

Hey, he's Swedish, I've got to be a little patriotic. :D Can't believe his Boten Anna song actually became internationally known though, and even translated... the text doesn't make as much sense in English. I don't know, maybe he wasn't thinking, just having fun with sound? He seems like a pretty random person. It's not my type of music either but it's stuck in mind. Permanently Can't get rid of it.

Oh, HL2 engine, must be great! I'm still waiting on the next engine... might be a long wait...

Glad to see hear these links may come in handy. :) Searching my mind for more... nah, those are probably all the ones I visit. There's also some Indie site blogging about interesting stuff but I seem to have forgotten the name...

As for uninstalling games, if I find a game I really like, I can keep going for years. Playing it more than just a couple of times, exploring every facet of it; when it's eventually losing it's edge, turning to mods for even more re-playability. I guess the game industry doesn't want people like me though, they won't get so many sales. :D

Can you think of a similar game created before it? I know there are plenty of underdogs, but in this case I can't find any info on a predecessor to the Angry Birds franchise. If it really was a new idea it'd merit the attention it's been getting... there are countless Flash games now that make use of similar physics in new ways, I can't remember any of them being around a few years back.

I should give it a try some time. I played Lego Island for the GBA... a mix of racing, puzzle, arcade... a pretty fun mix! But a bit monotone after a while. Lego Racing was a bit monotone too, but at least it had local multiplayer...

Cyberdevil 2013-11-21 22:40:16

He must've added a Portal. :)

Hah, man that sounds even worse than my habit of overplaying games! :D I like those RPG games where you can explore all alternatives in a conversation, instead of one choice leading you forward and missing out on the rest... completing the game like that makes it feel like it's not really completed at all. I'd better stay away from Knife of Dunwall...

So there may be predecessors! I Googled a bit but didn't find anything.

They're Flash games? Yeah, Lego games are fun, and it's crazy all the potential they've opened up. They could make a game about any movie (probably get some sponsor money for it as well) and it'd be a hit, they can delve into any plot or idea they like, and they hold the patent on Lego so there's no competition for their genre either.

Cyberdevil 2013-11-22 19:53:03

Ah, well same principle, different approach. It's pretty cool with more dynamic games, but if you do want to explore every facet of them it gets difficult if you don't know which events trigger each change. One of my old favorites (Oni, 2001) has a few choices you make along the way that alters what happens. At times it's obvious things like killing your boss or not (which decides if you get to fight your mutated villain brother or just the regular super-powered one), at other times it's as subtle as if you save a specific bystander that was intended to be killed, it'll trigger a new enemy at some point in the level. It's really a rather complex pattern of choices, but it adds a lot to the game. Until you figure out the pattern there's plenty of surprise and what appears to be random encounters. I guess the basics for dynamic gaming goes all the way back to Doom, where performing certain actions would spawn certain foes, but back then they had nothing to do with plotline...

Well ok then, the predecessor it officially is. :)

A lot of games! Do you have any real Bionicles btw?

Yeah, true. And they have a budget to stay in the lead. If a company like eh... like that one company that makes rounded blocks that look a bit like Lego, under a different brand name... if they wanted to dive into the video game business it'd be possible, but I guess they have no funding for it. Btw, just discovered there's a cellphone you can build out of LEGO-like blocks: Phoneblocks. Pretty cool!

Cyberdevil 2013-11-23 11:07:44

Hehe, yeah, crazy inventions! :D

Ah, OK, sounds more like the decisions you face in GTA 4 or Max Payne 3, though it's not always that clear what is a moral judgment and what's just a necessary confrontation until later in the game..

Stand your ground man, it's new ground! :D

Sounds awesome. I have a ton of Lego, but actually no Bionicles.... yet. I'm dreaming of a future where I'll have room for an entire room filled with LEGO, enough to build entire cityscapes on large tables, anything I'd like! You never grow too old for this stuff...

Cyberdevil 2013-11-23 15:59:35

That'd be something. :D Ideas of a coffin made out of LEGO pop into mind... nah, that'd be going overboard. Speaking of boards though, a surfing board made of LEGO would be pretty cool... I remember going to Legoland as a kid though, the ice cave they had was pretty cool! Like a fridge. A fridge made of Lego hmm...

Cyberdevil 2013-11-23 19:36:20

Yeah, I don't know, that'd be interesting to try some time. I guess it'd be pretty durable if it's made out of only longer flat pieces, puzzled together in overlapping layers... project for the future maybe. :)

Cyberdevil 2013-11-24 12:14:34

It would be.