@FistofGreedo thanks for the tribute! :D
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And now you rise to the top of all the sinks, indeed that is more of a geyser.
But what if they try to make human sacrifices! O_o
That's why you better Check Yo Self http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueFTrwHFEs
Oh man that is crazy! well is nice in a way, but you have to take care of your own house first then you attend your guest, and if they are citizens that came from the outside then the citizens that were already there should have the same privileges, as for cultural integration that is a touchy field, that i am not really all that prepared to board not even in a casual sense, for you see some argue that as long as they fulfill their social, politic, and economic duties, that the cultural aspect could pass to a 2nd plane, however this cultural aspect is primordial to develop a working coexistence, so if i say it yes cultural integration is a must, inside the range of respecting the own heredity of the immigrant, because the main-appeal of having someone with a different view is to utilize it in favor of the nation, that is why multiculturalism is so appealing.
(Mmmh the world is still big, my man, the problem maybe that Sweden is the one that is small XD)
But i agree (in part) if people leave their countries is because there are problems there that should be solved first instead of running away somewhere else, and while there is a lot of truth to this statement of fixing the source of the problem, there is also a lot of blinded privilege behind it, because for starters we assume that the source of the problem lies inside the country of origin, while for most these things are a product of history and international relations, i don't know what is the impact of Sweden in other countries, but i am sure it is not close to that of other countries however to say that it has none is naive, why? simple the economy is a global thing, so even if the presence of that government is not active in other countries, companies and capitalist from that country can be, and most of the time these are just as bad, then there is the relations that Sweden has and those that its allies have, for example Sweden trades with Russia, Russia invades Ukraine , then an Ukrainian ends in Sweden. This is just a factor, there are many, many more.
And there is also the wrong notion of locking someone inside a country that is clearly incompetent, for example NK
A dude is like a guy sir. :P Comedy just rose to a new low!
Then it'd be a nightmare. O_o
You better keep it gangsta http://youtu.be/jhe7ZHcbVxM
It's almost like anti-matter.
You speak the truth! Well Sweden trades with Russia, but Sweden's intent on strengthening their ties with NATO, so the Russian's haven't been too happy with Sweden. Naive leaders think that an alliance with the US would keep any potential enemies at bay, though it may very well be the other way around; I wish we'd keep our neutrality: stand our own ground. I don't know that much about Swedish relations with other countries, but it used to be a waring state, we pretty much owned the larger part of Scandinavia for a while... Norwegians are our good friends now but the Finnish aren't all positive towards us. Relations are complex; even more so in the global world...
I don't see that multi-cultural appeal though, it may hold true within groups such as companies, for creative thinking, but what benefit would it be to a country who's main strength lies in natural resources? I believe a lot of countries could have self-sustainable societies and not need to rely solely on competence to survive, all of that is tied to the IT age, which is a really fragile stepping stone that could lead to furthering civilization or to ultimately destroying it... NK is a pretty extreme example, they cut their ties to the world; don't seem to care about their citizens... not an inspiring example of how capitalism could be fought. In that case Brazil is a role model. I don't know if it's old news now, but they banned adverts on buildings, and it's amazing how clean everything is without them! You don't really pay it any mind until it's gone, it's like being a supporter here at NG, I barely noticed the ads till I became a supporter, now if I log out they're in the way all the time, but getting off topic again...
As for that 'staying and fighting' thing, I just believe that if people were patriotic in a positive way, they wouldn't move. It's a sign that society as a whole isn't very harmonious when people want to escape the only places they have a link to, I've traveled a bit so maybe I feel a stronger bond to my place of birth than most people do, but ... yeah, I don't have much faih in multiculturalism. Is there any place it's actually worked? Oh and btw, it is a touchy matter indeed... I wouldn't speak about stuff like this with my neighbors, but communicating across countries... it's like all topics are open for debate. That's one benefit granted.
Haha, we need more cultist in all immigration bureau.
An they have no Vaseline http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvRc7pwnt0U
Patriotism could work if is worked in a way when you recognize that your country has problems and they need to be fixed, otherwise it becomes nationalism, as things stand today, most countries are in the second category, however if you call someone that they will take offence even if is the truth, like calling fat people fat...
Yeah the thing with globalization is that even if is there it is not being embraced other than as an excuse for countries to expand and infiltrate using different means, for example a free-trade agreement between a developed country and one in-development, can screw the second one for this one is unable to compete, and yet both parties push for it, we could say that none of them really care if the second country is destroyed as long as the upper-class profits from the agreement, as for immigration i guess that thanks to mobility and technology it has become easier to do, and thanks to social organization it has become easier to see and take notice of, you can know hoe many immigrants arrive to a country each year, however it is sad to see that the social and political tools to manage immigration have not advanced in great deal, there are laws to suppress, evict and regulate emigration, but not to properly take care of the immigrant once it enters, and i am not saying that this is OK, however it makes sense, because most countries are unable to take proper care of the people that they already had, let alone new people from somewhere else.
With this in mind is the solution to close the country and to harden immigration laws? that doesn't really helps much is like using a band aid on a broken pipeline, a real answer would be to start working on social measures to see how viable is to increase the life conditions of the country and livelihood, but socialism has a bad name... for example free health care, that is not really free because everyone pays for it, but since the cost is redistributed then is sustainable, is already done for military affairs, and yet people hate the idea...
So down under ground I'm over ground on the otherside. I went under but I got over it!
That'd be a dream. :)
That's why they thugs dirty http://youtu.be/l0rymOrMxQo
Notice that you can't see it.
True, just like with persona you need to recognize your own weaknesses to improve, but some don't see past their ego. Patriotism is in essence really just devotion and attachment.
I'm thinking we have a different kind of problem over here, we take too good care of immigrants, they get bigger allowances than old people get in pension, they get free dental care, healthcare, free phonecalls international, a sum to buy furniture, free housing, optional lessons in language (they're not even required to learn Swedish if they don't want to). We are way too lenient, and in the long run it's going to create a large cultural divide, though we welcome everyone with open arms a fraction of people start seeing them as enemies because the wealth of the state is spent on them, and there's no integration. So suppression and eviction's no problem here, but regulation definitely is, proper care isn't always just the 'best care'. As you say we can't take care of the people we already have, we take care of the rest of the world instead. It's crazy. First world problem maybe, but I don't think it's sustainable progress, in the long run there won't be resources for anyone.
I think the solution would be to keep people from moving out of their countries in the first place, the problem needs to be met at its source. If large quantities of people want to move, there's a problem; that problem should be solved, not just people shipped from one place to another in search for something better. The world's not that big anymore.
Free healthcare would be nice btw, we have a high-cost limit so if you pay a certain amount in a certain time-period any remaining care is free, but it's not applicable for all types of health-care. It's a start though. I like the safety-net system but I feel it's wasted, the government just throws away money on trying to fix things that aren't broken and ignoring the things that are... better not go into details though, there's too much!
That is a new low level of cleaning.
"Sir i believe i have a passport!"
"Is that so? where is it i cant see it!"
"Is there i know is there, right next to my soul..."
So they wouldn't be laughing now,and crying later http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm8XNIHTPHw
I guess you are now a tanned man.
Patriotism, is an imaginary nasty thing that requires a person to believe its own country to be better than others, indeed America may be the worst specially since is even known as the police of the world (the nerve of such tittle), which is actually critic, but some people actually like it what nonsense.
A country with a clean history? hard to think of a place who has been invaded, survived the invasion and keep its original inhabitants living in proper conditions, or that didn't went and started fucking shit up somewhere else. Indeed such a thing may be impossible, for it requires the place to be isolated, and if we remember feudalism was sustained by war, Noblemen and Royalty didn't made their own riches it was by taxation, war and pillage that their riches grew and their kingdom expanded, that model was everywhere, specially north when food was scarce and agriculture was not really sustainable, Asia was in constant war, Africa (even without Europe fucking the place up) had a constant history of tribes fighting each other, and the same goes for the American continent, and even if that was not the case natives worldwide have been robed of their lands, with no real mean of getting compensation, that is also true for the Oceania continent.
I'm very down to earth.
Haha, you could just tell him: "If you believe that I have it, then you can see it too!"
Cause they're color blind? http://youtu.be/TneRKPmLfck
A pretty light tan yeah. :P
Indeed, but at the same time it's a bit like ego. If you don't believe in yourself you won't get anywhere, if nobody believes in the country than ditto, the challenge is being patriotic without being condescending. Personally I don't like my government at all, I feel ties to certain locations but not to the country as a whole, I'd like to be patriotic though... I believe if everyone was then we could build up a society everybody fits into, where everybody can serve a purpose and unite for a common cause, but if that cause turns anti-other countries then it'd go downhill quickly.
Sp true. There are so many stories about nations welcoming their 'guests' with open arms just to have that hopsitality abused and everything turned to shit... and it keeps happening, though not in the same scale as earlier. Globalism's helped a bit but in return it's making relations so much more complex.
So i bet you have to crawl to use it that sink.
To denote emotion, and try to attain some sympathy.
Leave right away, i will have to get my passport and that kinda takes time.
But that's only until they rich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phITXWICxlM
And the light didn't burn you!?
Yeah racism is a widespread thing, but the point is that when they trash talk others is not in the context of a joke, they do believe it, you could say that some have some really valid grudges sprouting from world war, but the thing goes beyond that, Japan tried plenty of times to invade Korea failing time and time again, then got nuked twice and it didn't made them more humble XD, China has always see itself as the father of all these countries surrounding it, and Korea sees itself as the righteous and advanced one, you could say that they are all just prideful, but one thing is to be prideful and another is to be condescending, and they enforce this in their education until the late 80's japan still denied their own war crimes, which then leads to people like Isayama Hajime (Shingeki no Kyojin, most hyped not that good 2013 anime, for real) to go out and start talking shit about Korea, is his fault? yes he could get some research before starting acting racist, but is also his country's fault for educating him that way. And it gets even more worse when you see that is not just Japan being an asshole, but all of them XD.
Yeah I sink down a bit. :P
But if you believe you have your passport already then... no problem! :D
True to the game http://youtu.be/r_zSt-qQfn4
Nah it was pretty light.
Well they didn't get nuked by Korea. Would've been odd if that'd made them humble to Koreans, I think. It's true they should change their views, but it's not just the Japanese. I mean just look at America, is there a more condescending country out there? Or is it just pride? I'm not sure where the line's drawn. It'd be interesting to know if there are actually any countries with a clean history, or better yet, history books that aren't angle to in some way reflect the views of the leaders of the country.
Man and the second part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ima17mX8_fU
It gets real!
Saburo Ienaga seems like an inspiring person! For real. Shit gets real for the author, for real, he takes up some valid points but - I was expecting something more about Japan! For real.
Yo man i conveniently stumbled upon this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxnmMrWOj3c to tell you the truth while i already knew that Japanese where full of themselves it seems that it gets quite crazy sometimes.
Seems like the discrimination part is a worldwide problem, not just Japan, though it's crazy how few Japanese actually realize what outlook they have... brainwashing, subjugation? The thing about using Okinawan people as shields was pretty sick, but I didn't find that thing about how people from certain districts look down on people from other districts as strange as it seems the teacher did. It's a worldwide phenomena, there's always that 'we're better than *selected category*' wherever you live, with some more than others, and does that make us worse people? I suppose if that leads to using a certain group of for labor or shields, then yeah, it's horrible, but it shouldn't need to come to that. It's like how Swedes joke about how stupid Norwegian people are, and Norwegians have the same jokes about us. There's plenty of stuff like 'The Book of Norwegian Inventions' with fictional contraptions like an inflatable dart board, etc... no bitterness between the countries though. And smaller villages always distance themselves from their neighbors, strange how we've stopped taking territories for granted, going for a global world when everyone really needs their own safe zone. Family/friends/house/property/neighborhood/town/city/country/continent... the larger it gets, the more impersonal, and people give everyone and anything a stereotype when they don't know them/it, tis nature. But yeah, crazy about those Okinawans, on my way to the second video...
Is that so? is one of those kindergarten type sinks?
We are glad about all this gladness.
You will see it, someday, however i can't assure you if that Japan will be real or not.
He will probably play a roll call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdFm7xNJow
A hard drive? just getting you to the moon is troublesome already XD.
No I'm just kinda high.
We are so glad we get tearglads.
For real. And if it's not really real, you should go ahead and see it right away!
You know how they do it! http://youtu.be/rzRqEWJYwX4
Well I just sat a light, didn't get anywhere.
How low can you sink?
I am glad you comprehend.
Yeah somethings you just have to see them with your own eyes, even if our senses deceive us XD.
Is playing with a Jack in the box: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw3qkR-lhFI
You are signed, but we don't have the technology to send you there.
Haha i appreciate the sentiment.
My sink is pretty low.
I am glad you are glad!
lol, even if what we see is all just a figment of our imaginations and we are actually having this conversation with ourself... I'd like to see Japan! :D
Wonder what'll play tomorrow? http://youtu.be/oqhvw_cN1zA
I guess it'd be a hard drive. :/
No no when the price of the rice goes down, you need to get them wealthy wheat!
But we cant comprehend it because is beyond our field of comprehensible comprehension!
Oh yeah don't get me wrong i like Japan more than Korean, and i get this nice feeling with ancient Chine, the people and the place are great, but with all sincerity the Japanese are full of themselves XD.
Man i wonder why countries burn and dump all their data in African electronic dumpsters instead of magnetizing it? anyway as i understand it each bit is a charged electron that is either - or + so it should still count as physical, however i guess we should still need an interface to see the data.
It seems they lack that hood mentality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pIPDheGhVk
The universal Olympics!?
Yeah, but i am not sharing.
Na not really a memento, he just gave it to her, because yes, then she got rid of it, for the same reasons XD, but the one who suffers is me!
But I'm down with the price you know, I have high hopes for new lows!
That sounds comprehensive.
Hmm... Nintendo does give that impression! I'll take your word for it... and from now on look at anything Japanese with a skeptic gaze. :) Their humble attitude is quite the deception huh. Gotta go there some time; see how it really is!
They do that?! Probably because they don't really know what they're doing. Aha.
Yeah, that crack baby: http://youtu.be/ubx6HQtM0FI
An interplanetary sports event?Sign me up!
Haha, ah, I don't... I don't know what to say. It's a tragedy. I am sorry for your loss man!
The stock rice is going down? a sad day for investors.
Well yeah i do support the notion of not trying to comprehend the incomprehensible.
If i remember well he tried to invade Japan twice, and he failed twice XD. Well i know how you will mix whirlwind/cyclone/hurricane/tornado/ and maybe typhoon, but Tsunami is a whole different thing haha. Well you know Japanese had that whole Samurai caste system and were full of themselves even after the restoration, so it was easy for them to feel better than all the other Asians, even today some Japanese look down on Koreans, have you even went to an Asian submit? the Japanese representative can't be next to the Korean one, and the Chinese is usually in the middle the whole thing is both sad and hilarious.
Too lazy to search for it, but there must be, after all to completely delete data is hard as it gets!
(I cant believe NG still censors the word nig ga XD) It takes a nation to stop him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEz7fwL7fFE
It seems you are ready for the Olympics.
You resurrected! are you... a zombie!!!!?
I don't know in which state it was, but it still hurts, it was not mine, my uncle gave it to my mom some time ago and i don't know what she was thinking when she got rid of it.
I guess we better stock up on rice ASAP!
But if we never try to comprehend what we don't comprehend, then we'll never learn anything. :/
Yupp, two times, two typhoons! lmao, I mixed them up again!! It all sounds so alike dammit!
Never been to an Asian summit no. I know they have some problems with each other, but I didn't know the Japanese were the ones looking down on the others, I thought it was a distrust they all shared... that course might've been a bit angled. :P
All you need is a really strong magnet or a crusher! The thing with corrupting data though is that you can't locate a certain piece of information on a certain part of the disc, at least as I've understood it all these bits are spread out across the surface and linked together through the index, which is also not stored in a certain physical location, and how do you 'find' the information in the first place, through the physical surface? When it's fully digital, is there actually a way to 'see' the info without accessing it through the interface it's been designed for? If you do find something, how would you corrupt that without affecting all the surrounding data? It seems like incredible precision work, it'd be like picking up an atom of gray matter in front of us that we don't even know is there. Or maybe I'm completely misunderstanding how HDs work...
Believe it or not! http://youtu.be/6LvLgdZ9uAk
Nah, I need something a bit more challenging than that.
Not that I know of. Got brains?
Huh, was it more of a memento? Yeah strange indeed, * ways are mysterious...
So will the game be stopped!?
But that is almost as if... you were insinuating that... there are some metaphysics that we can understand O_o!!!
Well it is a compound made out of Kami (god, divinity) and Kaze (wind, air) so yeah XD, also i thought it was a typhoon and not a tsunami, wow looks like things were even more hardcore. I don't really know if they got Stockholm syndrome (it kinda looks like it), but i know that part of their naivety was backed by their own patriotism (and sure enough all those if not most of those patriots ended dead or abandoned), and by the Nazis (which were their allies).
Lol who knows, maybe there is a way to corrupt data in a controlled manner. Oh is the n***a we all love!
to hate!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T84aFozWKA8
Haha well the things that captivated me were the story behind the dark ones/ancient ones, which is straight out of Lovecraft, and the story of The Horde, FOR THE HORDE!!!
Lying down... take a deep breath, then start doing push ups like a madman? XD.
"during my lifetime" dude! that is huge i can't believe i was talking all this time with a ghost! all this time! no wonder you insist so much in the existence of a soul! hahaha.
Man i have 0 LPs of my own T_T, and my mom had one of Iron Maiden, and then she throw it out! aaah the despair!
GameStop? Stock prices are -0.08 (-0.22%) down, maybe.
Hmm? I thought I was saying that if we don't comprehend these metaphysics that we try to comprehend, then compensation for this effort in uncomprehending comprehending just isn't enough!
Oh man, that whirlwind/cyclone/tsunami thing again... and typhoon's not even related. Gotta get my facts straight! So you did know though, I thought not many people did know that, learnt it myself on a 'Japanese History before 1868' course... yeah, and what's a bit twisted is they weren't even white, they're Asian, how did the Germans get them to buy into those Arian ideals anyway? I can understand Russia, and Italy might've felt the peer pressure... but Japan, that's far out.
If there is, I retract all previous statements on the matter. :) Yeah, dat hardcore NGer! Natural born killer: http://youtu.be/c9-M2tqIX38
Aha, so that's what it's based on!
Haha, as long as they're upside-down push-ups, carrying the weight of your entire... arms. :P
I used to ghost a bit, no more. :P Oh maaaan, Iron Maiden! If it was in good shape it could've brought in some $$$, old Metallica LPs are worth around $100 a piece. I have a few but they're not really mint condition. The oldest one was even missing a piece of the plate, found out after I'd bought it. :/
Oh that reference!
That it is metaphysics beyond our comprehension! (but it would be nice if it is real)
Yeah but Japan was quite assholes in the war too, and they were defeated kinda badly, it was easier to blame the government who snatched their family to war, made them pass hardship sustaining the troops, with taxes, hunger and censorship, even before going against the US, Japan was not even defending they were out there to expand, to do that and lose must fell like shit, even more if they think that it was not necessary. However i do agree it is weird that they didn't hated the US with more fervor, probably a sentiment of shame for the things they themselves did made them hold back, and yet it is still weird.
Well corrupting is still affecting... XD.
I was hooked on the story thanks to Warcraft 3 (where i also met Dota), but after a while blizzard shitted on the lore and i was able to quit.
"Exercise" what is that!? lololol.
Well Vinyl is taking a wind up lately apparently or so some say, by some statistics that i am not so sure how legit may be http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/vinyl-wont-really-make-a-comeback-until-we-have-more-record-presses
Yeah maybe a more accurate word is virtual instead of digital.
The ref are ense! (ense = agreeing with each other)
It must also be metaphysics beyond our compensation! Word.
Hmm, guess so. It was in fact the first time they'd ever lost a war. Speaking of which, did you know the world Kamikaze means 'heavenly wind' and was derived from the time Gengis Khan was getting ready to attack Japan, and had countless ships of his crushed by a sudden tsunami? During the WW2 it feels like Japan were particularly naive, they didn't really contact with the outside world, they'd never lost... they didn't know what they were getting into. They suffered pretty huge losses when those nukes went off, probably many times over what losses they might've caused... guess it might be kinda like the Stockholm Syndrome?
lol true, but you have no control over how you're affecting it! Btw, everything's corrupt: http://youtu.be/73-5iNwb7qo
So you overcame your addiction! Stay strong. It's strange I never got into the series considering I have Starcraft 1 & 2 and Warfract 2 and 3, and some broadwar expansion pack, and that WoW trial I mentioned... and I've never played any of them.
lololol, exercise is: opening a door, getting up in the morning, lying down...
I believe it. :) Not that it's like it was in old times, but it definately seems more popular now than it's been during my lifetime (as far as I remember). They even have racks of LPs in a few common department stores here, it's still more of a collectors thing than a format for practical use, but it's nice that the alternative's there! If I was a tad bit richer I'd buy a few new ones, only have a shitton of second-hand LPs stashed away... classics like Van Halen, Meat Loaf, Europe, Milli Vanilli...
Seems like you are doomed.
Are we even perceiving what we think we perceive!?
Yeah it makes even more sense if now you think that the majority of able male Japanese patriots died in the war, so the ones that remain aren't all that pleased with the country.
If you physically mess with the circuits you can affect the data, so with enough care it is possible!
I see what you did there, clever, clever indeed!
Haha i wasted a lot of time on WoW so there is that... a dark spot of my past... XD.
Damn what a cool school!
As everything becomes digital the physical copies became rarer and rarer, i don't remember the last time i played something straight from the CDs haha.
Everything is DooM ED!
I don't even know what I think I perceive that I think! What do you think?
But you*d think that the people who are left are sons and daughters of the people who died. Seeing as everyone who passed had a family you'd think there was a bigger thirst for vengeance. I can see how it'd work the other way though..
Oh, you can? In other ways than just corrupting it? :/
Wow man, you played that game?! I might've started too, a friend gave me a trial version on thirty days, but for some reason I never did use it... glad I didn't, I'd have been stuck there forever. :D
Well hmm huh... maybe it was!
I actually played a CD a couple of days ago. :) Yeah it gets rarer and rarer, usually I have everything I need on the PC but that's in a separate room; I have a stereo leftover from ancient times in mine, usually play some leet banging beats while exercising or just taking a break. Though CDs could be considered digital media too! I grew up with tapes, but it'd have been awesome to live in the age of vinyl, LP covers are like artworks.
You know Jesus's dad loves to murder you better think something up!
We don't know any of that, and there is no real answer for that since our senses deceive us.
I don't think that the american dream produces psychos, they were already there, it was part of them for a long time, is just that violence was more acceptable, if we take a cowboy or a colonist and bring him to our current times, we would only see a gun crazy barbarian, and a drunkard, but well those kind of "people" are the ones you need when you invade a land under colonialism.
And the same goes for Japan you know not only did they lose the war, got american bases, but also suffered 2 nuclear bombs, that breaks a country and its people, while they sunk in poverty you get all these foreigners spending money, of course the survivors are mad with their country for entering such a "pointless" war, in denial they now seek an alternative, and that alternative is the american model, while an anti-american sentiment exist no one is feeling patriotic, and the only way to revitalize business is by making it with the Americans, thus they need to actually communicate with them learn of them, adapt and follow, the language starts to morph and change and foreign business start to spread, the economy stabilizes again but the damage is done already.
Come one man this text is real, it is in the form of bits! You know part of the advantage of science is that its theories have direct practical applications, so not everything is virtually cryptic, i know that some say that we need to re-enchant the world, but come on man! while there are mysterious things not everything needs to be like that XD.
Not if is only gaming, and if you somehow do, prepare to get burned once you come back XD.
Oh lithium was quite good too!
But if I plot something he'll probably know what I'm plotting, and then the plot'll think and I'll be lost and doomed and forgotten. O_O
Indeed; since we don't know if our senses are our senses or if we are deceived or not.
Hmm, true, so they were the ones initially chasing that dream that defined America before it became the American dream. That evolution in Japan's cultural/economical climate makes sense too.
Yeah but bits don't actually exist. Bits aren't material. The circuits that store them are, but there is no way of indirectly accessing this form of storage. Unless the text is printed, it's like a ghost, it's like we gain access to a parallel dimension through this technological fiber that encloses us.
Hehe yeah, not everything!
You mean online gaming? Yeah, true... apart from flash games I never have been much for online multiplayer. :D
Oh yeah, that's another classic! In school we learned to play this one: http://youtu.be/vabnZ9-ex7o
Not the one I'd chosen as a teacher, but I guess it's one of their safer ones. :D Opened my eyes for the band, at least! I've had Nevermind on my album shelf forever, think I have a pirate copy of In Utero too, somewhere...
You killed the gently nutria to make nutritious nutri-nick!? you know he was homies with Jesus right?
If a soul exist we will find answers about it, since it exist... if not, then not.
Still both could be longer, my guess is that a lot of Americentrism is being disguised under globalization, also the US patriotism gets too crazy even to unhealthy levels, what helps them spread is not really their patriotism, but that they won the war, their initial economic success, and the "american dream" a dream that is really fake but some people still believe in, then there was the subsequent wars on terrorism and drugs that helped to portray the US as a country that defends freedom and peace, while wagging and promoting war elsewhere, all those things helps into spreading and selling an image.
Ah well as knowledge and its fields gets more and more specialized the terminology and its parts also become more well... specialized, and while is complex it is still intelligible once it is explained, because that is also part of science, you know kids are supposed to be graduating from high school knowing at least both Marxism and a second level of fluid physics, but i damn well know i didn't see any Marxism theory until i started U, and i had to get lost on my initial career first!
How do you play video games and eat at the same time!!!???? Denial? pff i am perfectly ok! *starts trembling*
How do they reproduce anyway? is like when they crossbreed dogs of different sizes.
Nevermind is great, not really a fan of Bleach but is kinda good, and i somehow feel they started to lack a bit on In Utero, i think i prefer the Foo Fighters, but Nirvana has this thing that the FF lacks which i still don't know what is.
Oh my dog my blog is flawed. O_o
But what is existence? Where do we exist? Where does everything else? Is our dimension the only one, is what we see really there, is what we know really true?
Indeed, and that dream is a part of their patriotism, that's why they love their country! Well that's why some do; that's probably why other people look up to the US as well. It's not always the most opportune place, but I suppose the land of opportunity has some reason behind it. Another question is: is this American dream what breeds psychos, or is it just so that psychos move to America to live that dream? Considering they have the largest portion of them out of any country in the world... that thing about war btw, I'm surprised the Japanese have embraced American culture so much. They were nuked... twice... and suddenly American stuff's all that's trendy. Can't be just a form of obedience can it?
I don't think I learned either of those... with so much to learn, it must be difficult placing focus on the real essentials. Btw, modern science in some fields makes me think of computer work. There's so much work nowadays that relies on computers, that doesn't actually exist. I couldn't be typing this without a computer. And this doesn't really exist. This text isn't actually real. Strange world...
There's usually a key to pause the game. It's a revelation I kknow! :D lol
Artificial insemination maybe? IDK, topic change!!
I've always felt the Foo Fighters were a bit too light-hearted somehow, Nirvana felt real; gritty, might've been all those suicidal tendencies swirling around in Coabin's head that manifested itself in the music.. or maybe that's a perception we get just knowing about them hmm... Smells Like Teen Spirit is just awesome though, so much energy!!
The bishop was stingy, if they made the dish more trendy, they know there wouldn't be plenty, for the gently nutria, plus Jesus was feeling lazy that day.
IF it exist, if... we would find an answer, if...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americentrism that leads with ease to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanization a product of imperialism, however some people say that imperialism doesn't exist and that is just an illusion created by globalization, funny that they say that, but i wonder how do they explain coca-cola spreading american songs across the world? colonization has yet to ended.
No project or investigation gets funded for the sake of it, the investors are promised a practical use, and then they release the money, which is then used to investigate those far away things to then by used here.
Enlightenment with limits? how?
It was probably Tab enter.
But of course, haha somehow i made the direct link to carbohydrate drinks. Lol i definitively didn't eat beyond dinner, that served as lunch and breakfast, but i don't have a PC addiction!
Ponies everywhere nowadays.
Is a possibility, they tried to kill him quite a lot of times, among them there was this insistent ex-disciple that ended convinced of the path, but i forgot the name.
Yesterday I ate a bar of Nutri-Nick, if you see one best be quick, don't choose just pick. And chew don't lick. Like juice they're rich and huge - a hit. I knew as soon I bit.
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Woo, gotta love how the Chinese article on Americentrism is more extensive than the American one... Americanization seems like a much more established concept though, and it's true, it's happening all over. I think the reason the US are so successful at spreading their culture is because, in difference from a great deal of other countries, they're proud of it. Patriotism is a rare thing nowadays, and the US really use it to their advantage.
Well I'm sure there's a reason for everything, but it might not be one for all of mankind, I'd think most modern-day research is funded by corporations in the interest of profit, or if it is for the betterment of humankind, it's angled, it's according to government agenda or the interests of a certain group/person. But I'm getting sidetracked here... what I meant earlier was how much of our current research isn't as perceptible as it used to be. For example, you can't see grey matter, you can't see cells, you can't see atoms (without devices). But you can see the sun, and how it moves (if you understand how the Earth is moving), you can feel how gravity works, etc. New revelations are much more abstract oftentimes. Not sure what I meant by the 'enlightenment with limits', think it was some pun on the enlightemenment in form of posts but since I don't remember it it must not have been that great. :/
Mystery solved! :D
Carbohydrate drinks? Gotta look that up... ah, I used to eat a ton. I ate breakfast, then I ate some more and then I ate lunch, and I ate some snacks, had tea, ate some more, ate dinner, ate a late night meal... well maybe not every day, in phases, and at least three meals per day... I think. Might have skipped breakfast or lunch but I probably ate an extra meal later on to make up for it. Don't need as much food now but... I like eating, I want to keep eating at the same pace as I used to. :( Is that denial I hear?
Everywhere you look. Even with the horses! It's crazy.
Ah... maybe his death served a purpose then; led someone on the right path, made him a martyr, let him reach Nirvana... btw what do you think about the band?
(ok this one is in order and by order i mean i start with the with the 2nd/3rd comment and then the 1st one last...)
Is a nutria eating fish, that was fished by Jesus and sold by a bishop at a church by the river...
Is always that n in southern, wonder why is that?
Ah but there is the problem IF we have a soul... if, XD.
You have black ice cream? that is not called chocolate or coffee? intriguing.
Na but what i am talking about is a different thing, beyond an apparent excuse to diminish the problem of racial discrimination, here give it a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocentrism is mainly brought up in history since as it is taught it always starts in Europe, then it moves to the Americas, and it ignores the rest of the world, but it happens in all other fields really. So when you said white lightenment, i couldn't help it and remember that at that time important parts of the movement like the Irish or the Jews were ignored for not being all that white, and hell those are white as they get, now just think about everyone else then, and now add the people that still thing those other parts weren't really important, and now we have an academic problem in how things are taught. But that was not the case at all here, thus i was a victim of euro-centrist mentality.
Why wouldn't you be able to gave them a title accessible to everyone? like Enlightenment through posts! (Malware checked, it probably wasn't Esc, but then just what did i press? i know i did something... my hand was all over the place as i was typing.)
I don't drink soda so carbohydrates are not a prob. Oh man i remember those days, when you were able to get a week of a successful rotation from bed to computer desk and to bed again, shower? brushing? eating? hell no! the PC calls! XD.
Nice. damn mammalian mouth care sucks (oh the puns!).
Only if they are doing the right thing, and how do they know if they stop questioning? PON PON PON!
They probably picked them somewhere nearby and well... not everyone is an expert on fungi, but man what an uncool death he had.
So a bishop sold the fish? Jesus could've made a bolder dish, maybe made it glow with boulder-like smouldering bits of Macaroni chips.
Hmm, true... even though they lost the war. Odd.
That is a problem/question/mystery(with no answer). :D
Yeah, liquorice flavor. You don't have that?
Ah, seems like a sentiment leftover from a time when the rest of the world was new and unknown... doesn't seem like it has anything to do with Irish people btw, haven't they always lived within Europe too? It's had some pretty bad uses over the years, this viewform... btw, do you know if there's a word for the American viewpoint, viewing the world from an entirely American-perspective?
Well because it's no longer clear what purpose everything serves. I mean back when it was revealed the Earth rotated around the sun, or how the tide worked, or that the moon affected the tide, all these things had a direct effect on us, on faith and function etc, but now we are exploring so tiny details or so far away reaches of the universe that you can't really perceive their effect or make use of that knowledge... unless maybe you're a scientist. lol yeah, enlightenment to a certain extent!
Something like Tab Enter?
Carbohydrates are in bread, pasta, pizza, pastries... pretty much everything. :P Haha yeah, I did plenty of eating though, but health and hygene? Naaah... it's amazing how easy it was back then!
Unless he was intentionally poisoned? Ya never know...
(the hell my comment send itself when i miss pressed Esc)
So like i was saying: yeah, unless we get another inquisition, we are still in the age of enlightenment, or like it is trendy to say nowadays, post-enlightenment.
Enlightenment through posts is what I'm all about. :)
(Damn replied this in the wrong order, anyway...)
Nutritious like a nutria on virtuous fish shops with some bishops, and equally senseless.
Cadillacs, now i am thinking about Outkast! southern playalistic cadillac muzik (write it without looking!)
Those living the life? sure the after life! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI)
Well you know, the same way the brain emulates a consciousness? it emulates light to distract itself from death (according to myself).
Well you know euro-centrist mentality makes you a little bit paranoid each time the word white is involved without apparent link to the theme haha, i blame the Greeks.
Wait what? sure the revelations are larger, but we can document them just the same, plus in the age of information to spread these findings is even easier (yeah, unless we get another inq).
Are these cheesy pieces of wheat biscuits or what is this?
Ahh, memories. Write without looking? I could type that in my sleep! Southerplayalisticadillacmuzik ... oh damn I missed an n! Popping in that playlist right now though.
lol, haven't heard that joke before. :P
Hmm, but if we have some form of soul, consciousness would be included no?
Didn't know it was called euro-centrist mentality! Soon as word black's involved the potential for racism pops into mind for me. Sweden's at a phase now where racism is used as an excuse for anything, people call out 'racism' as soon as people speak of limiting immigration, saying that pensioners should get as much allowance as immigrants... people use the word without knowing what it means, they ban ice-cream and dessert names with the word 'black' in them thinking it may offend something. Getting a bit twisted....
The revelations are more abstract maybe? They can be documented, but can't be given a title you know? Not one everybody understands. True, the challenge now is finding useful knowledge in the stuffy stream.
Oh man, is reading other peoples dental life that i find out nice my mouth has been doing, 0 here, maybe is because i am not a fan of sugar in general? i don't really floss, but i brush constantly, getting to the wisdom teeth is not really that hard for me, mmh, weird.
Crocodiles are cool! but inst there a mammal with teeth regeneration out there? i don't like that sun warming dependency they have.
I like the earplug more, the less invasive the better, you know because paranoia and stuff, plus health constrains, and there is also the operation, though it is probably that the forehead implant would be cheaper than the earplug, mmmh fuck it, it would still be awesome to have regardless, worth the risk.
Actually he didn't really embrace it, he had to fight all the other monks of that age, because he was kinda the communist fella, and dem monks were bourgeois yo!
Yeah, it is probably the ones on the high post that are allowed to come with the questions, and is probably that those have grown complacent enough as to not bother with questioning the thing.
Yeah, since they eat what they could, and what was collected (they didn't accepted money only clothes and food), who knows where those mushrooms came from.
Lol crazy, crazy, crazy Japan.
Yeah I started caring for my teeth way too late. Haven't exactly been eating a lot of junk food but I guess there's still been plenty of sugar (carbohydrates are all converted to sugar too, btw... though probably not relevant to teeth). Went days sometimes without brushing, didn't care/think of consequences I guess. Good habits save a lot o work!
Can't find much info on mammals though, article mentions that 'extant mammals' can regrow one tooth at a time, and another type (our type I guess) not at all.
Forehead sensor? Took a while to figure out what that was in response to. :P
lol good knowing.
Yeah, but then again if they're doing the right theing there's no need to question it.
Oh yeah! And I seem to recall they're not allowed to refuse anything either, they place their trust fully in other people. It's like that act of selflessness cancels out the more selfish act of relying on others for food. Though I guess plenty do make their own...
"Abstract nonsense is the pinnacle of intelligence" -S3C the modern day Sophist
Hmm, wisdom: new word learned.
I used my wisdom teeth when I had them, which was probably around 7-8 years after they fully grew and then got pulled. They were never a problem, caused any pain, or posed a threat to the rest of my teeth. A cavity finally appeared on one of them, and as you say- they're hard to brush (and floss) and the dentist's suggestion was just to get them removed, rather then fill them (and probably have to do it again the future). But I haven't had any difficulties eating or anything now that they're gone. And while it's a case by case basis, I was only in moderate pain for one day (only had to resort to painkillers once), the procedure was simple, and I was completely healed in a week.
overall point: organisms try to be biologically conservative, they lose unnecessary appendages over very long periods of time, to make room for newer or modified ones that helps them thrive better in their (new) environment. With that said, perhaps 'conservative' wasn't the best choice of words, as 98% of human DNA is noncoding! what that means is, only 2% of our DNA are actual genes that are turned 'on' that create proteins necessary to maintain our health and development from a zygote to adult. Makes me wonder how much features that we've accumulated and still retain from past species that we've evolved from. What if a single cell was sent off to an advanced civilization with advanced technology in a different galaxy...what could they decrypt about life on Earth, its species, and the biological functions we had?
About the brain- no idea what its physical limits may be, but by the time we have evolved to reach 1000 years, surely we will have evolved the physical brain mass and capacity to store such a lifetime of memories. If anything, there would be technology to store such on separate (organic?) media and mechanisms to even search or brain for specific subjects, or even review what we did on one day...i find it fascinating to think about. Put a small sensor on your forehead, or an earplug of some type- "ahh, what was it that I was doing February 16, 1995?". there would be no need for cramming on tests, amongst other things. Memorization wouldn't be a factor in schooling, but creative thinking, categorization, and overall intelligence would be taken to new heights.
Ah, sounds reassuring. I've had some bad experiences with dentists here in Sweden, should maybe travel abroad if I get any serious work done... though so far it looks like all teeth are doing OK. Went to one dentist a couple of years back who found 8 cavities, I went to another one to get a new assessment... and he only found one, and to top it off one that the previous one hadn't found. Doesn't really enforce my trust in the industry... btw, I read recently that the US are working with ozone treatment to prevent and partially heal cavities, is that something you've tried/know about?
I wish we'd have evolved through crocodiles, that infinite-regeneration-of-teeth feature is something I'd have liked to try. :) Would be interesting indeed.
Hmm, external brains maybe? That'd be interesting. If we fully understood the brain, it should be possible to store information in a similar manner, would be interesting with the ability to store, transfer and share all forms of sensory information... it'd be an inspiring world, but at the same time it'd be pretty complicated to live in. With that technology the expectations on each individual would be way higher than it is now.
Yeah Hinduism is waaaaaaaaay more old than Buddhism, remember that Siddhartha was born in India, and it took quite some time for him to pass from prince to monk, and then he had to get married have a son, then he escaped to pursuit the world of stoicism (while the whole place was a mid wars), pass the trails, find the trails as something pointless, develop his philosophy, fight the cast system, then become enlightened, preach the way, and finally die of diarrhea thanks to mushroom poisoning.
And that is just with the original Buddha, i don't really know about all "his reincarnations", as far as i know they may as well be a bunch of posers, like this guy who thinks he is Jesus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuo_Matayoshi so yeah, in the case of the reincarnations of Buddha lets just add, the delusion + a world of mysticism + faith + religion dogma + a little bit of continuity = and we have people convinced that Buddha has come back, i don't know if Tenzin Gyatso thinks and sees himself as the reincarnation of Buddha, but by this point even if he likes it or not, he has to bear with the tittle, lets apply this to the past, and now we get people pretty much living certain of reincarnation being real, specially if we say that every enlightened one has become one with Buddha, in that case is not Buddha reincarnating, but people getting enlightenment, and now i guess we can see the obvious misunderstandings.
You know i like this phrase: "if you meet the Buddha on the road kill him." it is related to Zen practice, more exactly Koan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan and is in short, the Buddhist version of skepticism, is nice to see how they have these things, while everyone else is blinded by faith.
Yeah, I remember reading that... but somehow I always thought Buddhism was the ancient philosophy; that maybe he embraced that before forming his own religion. Shaolin monks... the ancients... feels like they've been around forever. :) As for Buddhist reincarnations, you could say that Buddhists believe that everyone is a 'Buddha', or has the potential to become one. Being a reincarnation is one thing, but being a 'Buddha' is like being enlightened, it's become a symbol rather than an identity, like you say.
Ah, interesting. Yeah it's nice they don't have that absolutism in their faith, though I wonder if they still actively question their own religion, like the founders did... probably not the same way.
Man I didn't know that thing about mushroom poisoning! Or that Asian Jesus. Crazy.
They eat it thoroughly! liking the bowl and all, it was kinda passionate, Toriko stile.
Really? no pain for me, i do remember i got a headache with one but that is about it, it was quite a boring experience for me this growing teeth thingy haha.
It was quite a kinky scene that day, topless cars sparking with their lustful open engines and their dimes blown all over their vines, and wine so much wine, they were whining while winning while drunk, what a bunch of punks!
Seems like quite some of them have died while trying or get really close to death, the "successful" ones don't see all reliable, and it would be nice if Naveena Shine doesn't becomes a pirate with scurvy XD.
But man i don't think that their soul, is the same soul we talked about i mean, that makes no sense XD (unless i forgot our definition of soul haha).
Maybe is the brain trying to cope on its last moments, trying to get with therms to the event of finding itself in the path of death, so it emulates memories of light to distract itself...
We actually live in modernity, some even say post modernity, and the age of enlightenment is quite old already haha (were does the white part comes from anyway? is because it happened manly in Europe? lol), but really the "enlightenment" title doesn't really helps with a theme about attaining enlightenment(Nirvana) XD.
?? son't really get it, if their religion ask them to live for others, and with Nirvana they get to clear their minds of all selfsentered thoughts, desires and distractions... then isn't that just perfect, think about it, they just became "perfect" altruist, we could even say, that they are no longer humans, since their human self is death, their selfish nature is no longer there, i think that is not really there being someone else manipulating, but rather there being no one at all to take control, so their lives is lived for others and not for themselves. Granted i may be misinterpreting this.
They eat it vicious, all that's deliciously nutritious!
Heh, well don't be disappointed! I'd rather have had it that way. Seems all people are different. It's like drilling teeth, some people don't even notice it, I must have my nerves near the surface cause drilling is hellish, even with anasthetics. I went to a laser dentist last time; will do so from now on! What a blissful experience it was! Silence.. the smell like popcorn... pain-free. :P
I,.. I don't know what to say. I cannot outshine that orgynal description of carlife! It's like a 1958 Cadillac 60 Special.
Yupp, the ones who die are the ones people pay attention to. :) I bet there are some living the life that the world won't ever know about; who don't care for making themselves known. True.
Why would the brain emulate light to distract itself? :/ That seems kind of counter-productive. But if it doesn't serve a 'purpose' it might be just like how a screen goes black when it shuts down; our mind goes white when we do.
lol, maybe living a life under a blacklight will let you come to entirely new realizations. :P It's like Gone in 60 Seconds.
Is there a better title? :P Of course, words can never fully express the splendour of that sublime state of mind!! As for the age of enlightenment being a thing of times past, it's a constant thing. we just don't pay it so much attention now because certain events were placed in history; the breakthroughs that happen now are so unfathomable it's like they won't fit in the books, we can't take in all this new knowledge, or make sense of it, or give it a purpose. Like: the light bulb illuminates our homes, it serves a purpose. Now there's grey matter floating around in space, but do people want to know? Do people want to know that the air they breath is full of this stuff? Eh... I lost the red line there, but what I'm saying is: the revelations of today are so much larger.
Nah, you interpreted that way better than I did!
Those chopsticks where all over the topic, like Asians eating ramen!
Yeah i some times find part of my gums still covering (let me check), yeah still covering part of one of the lower wisdom teeth, ha is a funny feeling to move it with the tongue.
All that burning debris is going to make things hot!
Lol well you know how most journalist are, they just jump to get the sensational news, and don't really go deep into it, so they getting fooled is not that crazy or rare.
Wow hold it, it is for real? you have to tell me more of this (apparent nonsense), because sure how do they even assimilate that light? not even plants can live only with light and air... as for the sleep i guess that would be easier to do (compared to a life with no food!), but the health effects should become apparent quite early, wonder what they do or how much they are sleeping per week, the whole thing sounds unreal really.
Well of course there must be a soul, i mean if there is no body but somehow a consciousness still exist... then soul must be the answer (dat soul XD), you know how did they got that light when they die anyway? like the first time, did someone died and then resurrected and started talking about the light? or someone else just started implementing it on their dogma and from there on everyone who had near death experiences started to talk about this light, that was culturally implanted into their world? lol big words yo! this is not philosophy, this is metaphysics! sure at some point philosophy was plagued with such things, but we live after The Age of Enlightenment!
So i did some wikipedian searching and found out that Nirvana in traditional Hinduism requires the self to become Brahman by going beyond oneself, so you turn into some kind of god version of yourself, while in Buddhism what you do is separating yourself, emptying oneself in order to ultimately be able to live without desires, without distractions which in turn facilitates the religious practices, it seems that while they are both similar they are both different.
So i guess the Buddhist one is easier to understand than the classical one, which is more esoteric, and thus more weird, i still don't get it all that well.
If the topic is Ramen, then it is all over!
Ah, I had that for a long time, funny feeling too, but for me it was momentarily painful, I think I eventually tried to chew off some of the flaps of skin... don't remember if that's how I got rid of them or if they just disappeared by themselves though...
In the parking lot with cars sparking shocks and blowing off their tops!
That's true, but I can't remember any other times I've read any false news... apart from The Onion. :P
Hard to find a neutral source of information on the topic, but here's a start:http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/breatharian.htmhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/14/living-on-light-without-food
Yeah, it sounds unreal. Just skimmed the above, but it seems to refer to those attemptint to live off of sunlight, not really the 'inner-light-state-of-being' and yes it seems like water is the problem. Even plants need water to survive...
That's the spirit! I mean soul. I mean metaphors. :P Yeah, people that have been resurrected (been resuscitated or shocked back to life, for example) have talked about the light, plenty of people have come to some kind of epiphany after seeing it, no matter if their were/are religious or not. So if the soul is (as it seems you also think :) then what's the world? What are the real limitations? It's like the Matrix you know, break free, find new truths - kind of idea. :)
Don't know if it's become a dogma with time though, maybe people imagine the light without seeing it just because they've heard ot if; maybe the light is an effect of the brain shutting down and has nothing to do with an otherworldly experience, but it seems the light is all but damaging so that doesn't seem logical.
It's a mesh of metaphysics and philosophy when there are no validated facts. :) Yeah! We live in the age of white lightenment! :P Maybe.
Huh, didn't know about Hinduism. I have easier to relate to Buddhism, probably because of how there is no higher entity controlling everything, the ones who do become 'gods' are regular people who attain Nirvana and decide to help out - according to their faith. But this brings the question of fate into a new light, because to reach Nirvana they must sacrifice their selves; live for others, and thus, they have no choice but to help others. So maybe there's really someone else luring behind the scenes hmm...
You mean Hinduism is the classic; Buddhism a modern version of it?! I thought it was the other way.
Haha offtopic what is that? we never deviated in our conversations!(delusion at its finest)
Na i still have all my teeth, is just that as they come out they don't hurt at all, i am sure those were wisdom teeth, because well numbers.
When it comes to comedy on the streets with tampon lines, is all about bananas condoms and the birds and the bees.
Haha both sound interesting, the closest to that i have heard is conductive ink to make circuits on paper (and a bunch of other surfaces).
I have heard a rumor about people trying to live with only light as food source, but i really have no info about it, but for real... how? within 3 days or so they should die of dehydration, forget about starvation just the fact of not drinking water is enough.
As for the "white light" no idea man, i sincerely got lost, because as i understand it, if you attain Nirvana you are reborn spiritually, but you still conserve your flesh, while in the other religions you need to die first not mentally but physically, so the differences are kinda big, and yet i don't see how previous lives come to play here, specially when in the first you retain your body, you could say that you connect with your other lives once you attain Nirvana and now your true self inhabits your body, but... mmmh, na, i just don't see it, theology is not really my forte, and to unite the reincarnation cycles in Buddhism with the unique souls of other religions seems challenging, because for starters, i don't really understand all those concepts, i mean we already talked about the soul, but here is another cake... what is Nirvana? like really, what is that true-self anyway? i have no idea.
Haha, yeah poetry, C.S. Lewis right? haha.
Word, a video of Q&A would be awesome!
lol. Least those chopsticks were off topic. :P
Got it. Yeah it seems to be different for everyone, I have a buddy who pulled out all four just as a precaution, another who's never had any trouble at all... don't know about the rest, haven't spoken to many people about wisdom teeth hmm... @VicariousE do you have any wisdom teeth?
(cont.) I have an urge to purge some debris.
Ah, it's all about the paper nowadays. :D The thing with these Russian experiments was that the total storage quota could be much larger than a regular mechanic HD, despite the lack of mass. Really wonder what happened to that, starting to wonder if it was a hoax or something... though if that's the case, news sites were fooled as well.
Yeah logically it'd be lethal! But if you believe (as they do) that everything is made up of energy (which it actually is, btw, though not in the form they believe - according to the science we 'know') you don't need to consume material to survive, only energy. I don't know about the food aspect, but I've heard of a few who have no trouble surviving with incredibly little sleep... so it's an intriguing idea.
According to Buddhists it's a mental state of mind, unrelated to the body, you can reach it when you live, but also when you die. Even if you're reborn you pass through Nirvana before starting over; it's all that white light. In that case, the mind would be considered separate to the body, like a manifestation of the soul (here we go again lol)... yeah, other religions don't have the same focus on meditation, that ambition of 'transcending the body', but since people of all religions (even those of no religion) supposedly see the light when they die, then it could all be linked together. As for the previous lives thing, I guess I get that from the 'Many Men, Many Masters' reading... but just disregard that aspect, if there's an afterlife or not is irrelevant, but if you can reach the same state of being when your alive as when you die, it should hint at how there is another plain of existence that we are shielded/keep ourselves away from. It's an interesting concept I think though I don't believe it strongly enough to really embrace the thought pattern I guess I'd need to try it myself. Nirvana is just a state of being, it's not a place to be, it's a way to be. And there's no truth, so true-self is a relative concept. But his is all philosophy of course, no science, no fact, no idea. :P
@VicariousE Sigh... really is not that i wanted a detailed exposition of everything, i just wanted to at least understand the idea behind the concepts, so i could at least agree or not with whatever he says, but if you tell me something like "Source Consciousness is the infinite field of awareness of the Unified Field".
That is fine, it's actually an answer... but i have no idea what Source Consciousness is, or what the infinite field is, or that this infinite field is aware, or what awareness is in this sense, or what the unified Field is.
All those are foreign concepts to me.
I got something similar with CyberD when we touched the subject of the "Soul" (for some reason), but at least we managed to get to an idea of what the soul is or at least does (i think we did), so even if i don't agree with CyberD at least i know what he means when he talks about the soul, but with Jordan i have nothing, if Jordan ever mentions the soul in one of his videos... is he talking about what i know by Soul, what CyberD knows by Soul, or something completely different? so i ask him: what is this soul you mention here? and sure if i am lucky he will tell me: ah well soul is A and C in the geometry of everything. But then what are A and C supposed to be? and really the same goes for the geometry of everything, i know more about that one, but i still have no idea of what it certainly is, and you could say, well the same goes for gravity in the end it's still some mystery, what are "gravitons" even supposed to be? granted is an hypothetical particle, it may not even exist, but at least if i search for it i can get an idea of what the idea is about then agree or not with it.
Likewise both gravitons and geometry of everything require of some specialized knowledge, that i know i don't have, so it is clear that i wont know completely what gravitons are, but i can at least say that they are a hypothetical massless particles that are supposed to mediate the force of gravitation, from there i have to search for "spin" in quantum mechanics and so and so, and they are accessible i just a search the words and i start getting definitions, and a context, and a field of study, however! if i search "geometry of everything" at best i find this https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/ but is this even the same thing Jordan was talking about?
Ah yeah, it all started with poetry, and that tendency to dive too deep into the depths of meaning, a poem example that suddenly spiraled into a debate on the human core... it all comes back to me now! :D He could make videos answering all the questions he gets btw, that'd surely be appreciated by a batch of people.
@Doomroar You're right, it's a tough nut of facts that don't jibe well with regular math, but he's describing points of interest, not the routes between them. And let's be frank, this stuff just is not taught academically. It's easy to get pissed that science is still in a big catch-up phase, despite our rapid, recent advances.
Dropping those dropkics on all those comments, rhyming when the timing is itching for the ining but what was in the beginning that we were debate-ing? you know i really can't remember by this point what our initial stand point in the topic were XD.
I got 2 wisdom teeth maybe 3? i cant remember since they didn't really hurt as they appeared they didn't leave much of a memorable impression in me, they were just more teeth growing out, so i think that people exaggerate, or maybe my dentist was high and those were normal molars XD hahaha.
Ledge is good, but if you go by the edge then you will get the thrills!
Oh man all that paper! interesting.
Lol wrong vid, well Mr @VicariousE i remember that one quite well actually http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/600446 and i also remember that i didn't agree completely with Jordan mostly because there was a need for some deeper explanation on both his vision and concepts http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/0d289ff5e147da333f5122e66c0faa4a however his reply was not really all that much help, indeed on the contrary it made got even more lost, so i send him a PM that day, but i didn't got a reply, basically i asked him to define the concepts of light and consciousness as well as the Unified Field.
But that is not the first time that this happens, in most of his videos this occurs, he is great until a point when suddenly he skips a crucial explanation, that never gets really solved, however he takes it as a given, that everyone knows the part he didn't touched.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/622860 this is the last video i commented on, i don't care no more about it, for real what is the point of asking if you don't get an answer? and when you do the thing couldn't be more ambiguous?
About the originalos of these dropkicks, I think it was.. no that's not it. Some emotional response blockage, and why do Chinese eat with chopsticks? We are definitely getting off topic. :P
Oh, sounds like you got them removed then?
A killer thriller! A pack of action! And if somebody with a trampoline's on-the-street, just might go for comedy. :P
Indeed. :) I was actually searching for a report I read a few years back that some Russians were experimenting with using regular paper as an HD, as actual storage, not just something you print. It probably wasn't real paper, but it looked like paper... I think. Couldn't find the link to that though, stumbled upon this instead.
Hmm, not my discussionm I guess but that light theory's one I've been curious about lately. Did you know there are people who strive to live only on light, without food/sleep/etc? The 'white light' people see when they die could be compared to the Buddhist's Nirvana, they claim it's a place for replenishing energies, but Nirvana is just a mental state (which leads you to question what importance the body really has) whereas all other religions see the light as the passageway to the afterlife... which if it does coincide with the Buddhist approach, might be the same light used for replenishing and could be linked to multiple lives and disprove most main religions. Though as it's a mental state you don't need to die to reach it, but anyway,, that's just something I've been reading and thinking about lately. With your views on science I don't expect you'll consider it the same!
Whoops, here's his math thing... http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/600446
It's a bit off topic, but knowledge is a uphill battle, and you gotta start at the bottom.
Ah, shorter than the last one too! :D Don't think I've watched this, will give it a shot tomorrow when my mind's clear.
I'm telling you, this kid Jordan is onto something. He's been through dozens of crappy New Age books to get at the truth of things. Anything that can explain science and God in good measure, deserve a good look-see. He's his keystone argument
Just checked... 990 favorite users on my list, and Jordan definitely got bumped |: It's getting worse! Or, more likely, a cap got put into place after I had over a thousand faves. Meh.
I should probably watch it again. Remember thinking it was something genius, but as I can nae imagine what genius it was the point probably didn't have as big an impact as it should have...
A cap below a thousand? :/ That'd be a strange cap... I noticed the favorites system is bugging when you delete favorites though, can only delete one at a time. Though I haven't checked in some time, might be fixed...
Unapplied knowledge is a weed looking for purpose.. but yeah, I like S3C's quote much better!
@doomroar http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/630667 just past the halfway mark, you'll find that the math of, well, everything, isn't what we were taught. The human mind is a truly holistic electrochemical sponge... hard to quantify it given our current perspective. But we are beginning to, and that's all that matters.
A seventeen minute revelation! Indeed.
However i admit i am a little bit skeptic about how close it really is, or can get to the real deal.
Seems like a pretty awesome development though!
You know what forget what i said it is even closer that i thought it was brain computer!!!! or artificial neurons, however you want to hype it: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-02/iop-bpt021114.php
Interesting. Here's some other interesting thing: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134427-a-paper-based-backup-solution-not-as-stupid-as-it-sounds
Thanks @S3C you covered a lot of points that i didn't, yeah Prions arent bad but most of them are malicious once they unfold in the brain, however this doesn't seems to be the case with Orb2, that among other things seems to be closely linked to the formation of long term memory. Also i never really touched the subject of how Prions work so i don't know if that is the contrary or not of what i say, but you are mostly correct, and yes indeed they don't have a purpose per say.
Well you see Mr S3C i myself am not really sure of what was the approach of Cyberdevil when comparing the Brain to a RAM, as i interpreted it, i can't remember no more, only that i kinda disagree haha, it is really a long conversation that still goes on now, so we should put things into context to avoid misunderstandings, but i think you managed to tie everything up nicely.
I think i agree with you in part, while the brain can be (and it is) compared to a computer i still see it as a quite different thing apart from a normal computer, obviously since it requires for the concepts to be simplified so much, until the pint when we talk about quantum mechanics, i like your clarification we were in the right track in most of things i think, but if we weren't, then we sure are now XD, also do you know the limit of info that can be stored in the brain? that question appeared at some point, but i didn't really had a answer for it, neither do i know if there has been successful research in that field.
Wisdom teeth, those molars that are suppose to "hurt" like hell when they come out? i guess i got lucky in that aspect.
Pff nonsense! i am pretty damn sure CyberD can make one hell of a story with all this weed... i-i-i mean knowledge... knowledge.
Yeah the mix was really good, i agree it could have more of an educational, historic approach, and be a little more long, have more samples, and some info on legal uses, nevertheless it was an interesting video.
Huh, my approach still confounds and confuses? Well I must admit it confounds and confuses me too. :P This brain matter material is a topic for precision optics... I'm more at home with philosophical division dropkicks.
You didn't get any wisdom teeth? Yet? They were a bit troublesome growing up, but once they stopped growing the trouble stopped. I think a lot of people pluck them out with waiting long enough to see if they'll fit or not.
lol. If you know ledge then you won't stumble!
"Unapplied knowledge is abstract nonsense" - Me, describing my life
sounds like S3C blurb material
"Abstract nonsense seems like poetry" - Unknown, thinking there should've been a cleverer way to formulate that...
Ahh, you speak of the coccyx? Most ladies say I have a huge one. Must be God's way of compensating me for giving me a small body part of similar name.
Well as you say, or at minimum implied, everything in the body can have some kind of purpose, even if it's for a non-natural biological method such as "replacement organ/limb/bone". Good thought there, although not medically practical as of now, wisdom teeth could be used for molar replacement, the appendix could be used to replace parts or as a new resection intermediate for the colon. even on a molecular level, non-coding DNA (dormant genes that had a use in ancestors) can protect the important DNA and regulate genetic processes.
there's plenty of body parts in the human that have a diminished to no know known current function: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality
It takes time for genes to be turned off, my prediction, in a million years give or take, humans no longer have wisdom teeth. I know of several people who never grew them; I only had 3 lol!
lmao, it's actually called a coccyx!! Ah yes, the balance of nature (or potential god). I find it gets in the way a bit of doing sit-ups, this coccyx.
Bone-marrow transplantation maybe? Yeah, I have that same theory with wisdom teeth, and I was recently made aware that teeth have a habit of pushing themselves towards the front of the mouth, so without molars they just might fill the gaps. Hmm hmm, way over my head but that sounds useful.
Interesting! Didn't know most of this stuff...
I'm not so sure wisdom teeth will disappear. I myself grew all four, and still have them... and they're actually pretty handy to have even if I don't need to maul plant fibers. :) It's an overall larger surface for chewing all types of material, though admittedly they are harder to reach with a brush and one of the upper ones is a bit slanted. I was thinking of having them removed since it seemed they were pushing together my front teeth too much, but it seems they stopped, so I'm glad I didn't (which btw was because the x-ray showed it'd be a complicated procedure to remove, roots all tangled up with the other teeth and stuff). Wonder if the appendix will disappear eventually though...
Well, it depends how you look at it, regarding the semantic description of energy. On one hand energy is just a property describing an object, with an object with lots of energy being able to do work. So in this sense, energy isnt actually stuff, but then you need to stuff to do stuff, so energy has to be stuff, and thusly energy is matter (and it mathematically is such, according to Einstein's most popular law E = mc^2). so essentially memory IS stored by energy. proteins and cells (such as neurons) are made of molecules, which are made of atoms, which are made of electrons, which can be divided into even smaller subparticles, which have their own energetic charges. So there's probably a point when approaching an infinitesimally small size, where a particle divides into just "raw" energy...mostly conjecture here, and world salad aside: you are fundamentally right. Although now you know or have a clearer idea that memory is stored in actually physically observable molecules, not something so mysterious and infinitely abstract as energy :P
I actually think the brain operates a lot like a computer. At the end of this paragraph, you may agree with me that everything in life is practically the same. The prions in this case being the .swf files, and the neurons being the .swf player. Some memories are only temporarily cached, and are "deleted" once you close your browser. I put "deleted" in quotes because some would argue that you never truly lose memories, just can't retain them- while on the other hand some computer forensic scientist would attest you can never truly delete any information on your computer. Obviously both cannot be physically true, as there are size constraints that will come into play at some point. One is stored in the form of machine code, the other in nucleotide sequences. Both are optimally simple at their core but give rise to an infinitely complex and unique things from being arranged in an infinite amount of unique ways. Everything in the world can fundamentally be reduced to 1s and 0s, but there is no limit on the amount of combinations you can have regarding binary code. Numbers are infinite.
Hmm, energy traveling through energy to get to a specific area of energy. :) Makes me think of how they recently (though it was probably a while back now, it's recent to me) discovered that empty space is actually filled with particles. Not that this is relevant at all... anyway, thanks or this additionally intriguing explanation/theorization!
The brain is definitely like a computer, or a computer is like a human, the brain the processor, the neurons RAM, prions drives (does that make sense?), nerves cables, blood cooling, lungs fans, GPU eyes, mainframe body, mobo skeleton... hmm. Ah, interesting simile. As for data never being erased on a computer, if you had an HD with infinite space (as you could argue the brain has... not infinite of course, but with so much space it'd seem that way to any normal individual), then it's true nothing would ever be deleted, but with limited space new files would over-write the old ones and make them unrecoverable. Deleting files just deletes the record, much the same way I guess certain memories are harder to remember if you don't store them the right way (memorize them), but with the right software (IRL hypnosis) they can be recovered all the same.
What'd be really interesting to know is what size constraints there are in the brain. If we lived 1000 years, would the brain have enough capacity to store all our memories? Is it possible to in a regular lifetime experience so much that the brain writes over old memories; does this happen already, in modern-day? And how are different experiences stored, what takes up more space, smells, sounds, images? What algorythms does the brain use to handle each type of data? It'd be interesting to know...
Can't go wrong with demons and cybernetic brains with chain guns!
As long as there are brains it's all OK!
The 13ths have always been kinda lucky or atypical :) The knights templar got nothin' on me!
Friday 13 templar reference? Had to go Wikipedia that. comment. :P Yeah I like to consider 13 a lucky number specifically because nobody else does, might've started off as rebellion but now... it's a number I associate with good fortune... and a bad set of movies.
Very nice tribute pic indeed! Oooh, look at the comments below. Lots of big words. "A weed is nothing more than a plant we currently haven't found a use for yet." -- some famous guy, I'm sure. My 13th anniversary is mere days away, I doubt it will be festive though..
Words of wisdom. :D Coincidentally, most weeds are plants that people used to have a use for, but which they've now forgotten in the frenzy of fast meals and manic automatic manufacturing. 13 is a... lucky number. :P
i should also clarify my first paragraph to avoid providing misinformation.... I shouldn't have said "therefore they serve a purpose"-just because we have something doesn't mean it provides a purpose currently, but it does mean that such had a function at some point in ancestral species.
Ah, I take for granted most of the workings within the human body serve some purpose though, only thing I know of that doesn't is the tailbone, remnant of times past, but who knows maybe there is some reason we still have that as well. Maybe it helps balance, maybe it's a spare part to be potentially used in surgery... seems there's nothing for nothing.
prions aren't bad. as a short, loose definition, prion just means a protein that is resistant to being cut. everyone has them and therefore they serve a purpose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrP_structure#Function), it's just when they're misfolded they become bad because they induce further deleterious misfolding of other prion proteins...and they are no longer able to carry out necessary biological functions. the folding is irreversible and unstoppable. one of the weirdest prion diseases is fatal familial insomnia, where people literally are not able to fall asleep and eventually die probably because of dementia. That's horrifying to think about.
the mechanism makes sense. in order to retain something unique over a long period of time, cut-resistant, proteins in an extremely stable confirmation are the perfect biomolecules that store the 'code' that calls for a unique connection of certain neurons across the brain, that invoke a unique memory. (the reverse of what Doomroar said, I could be wrong in my understanding/assessment though) It's not like DNA is continuously modified throughout life to store memories in our genetic code-or is it? in the form of deja-vu. It really boggles the mind [/superganhdi64]
all protein action, and truly all chemical, mechanical, or otherwise physical reactions require some kind of energy transfer, either by absorbing or emitting it.
You read my mind man! Way better than the wikipedia definition... and yeah that's pretty bizarre, a disease with no known cure either... scary. :/
lol that superganhdi64 quote.
Well we were speaking about that via PM earlier, I thought memories were stored in the form of energy (neurons maybe) and could be compared to computer RAM in that when energy is cut off to the brain all memory is purged, so that's what he was explaining below. Thanks for this added info!
Also ch-che-check this out: https://vimeo.com/85228844
Che-che-checked it out! Awesome mix, though I was expecting some revelations on what's actually allowed or not. :D Recognized a lot of those classics, lot of music I like!
Yo man this is a fresh one straight out of the oven: http://www.newswise.com/articles/what-makes-memories-last
Is a study that points out on the nature of the formation in long term memories, (which again are chemical process not really energetic), the study shows how Prions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion may have a crucial role in the management of memories by affecting the formation of protein to facilitate the storage in neurons (this also means that we may have one rare specimen of Prion a benign Prion!).
I found it quite interesting because the article shows a behavior quite apart from that of a RAM, we could say that, sure some argue that the brain may be a computer, but a bio machine still behaves quite differently enough to not really resemble a computer at all, and this supports that notion.
The article is not really that long, and it shows a really interesting point, i think they may be really getting close to something there, sure is an initial research but is solid enough.
Also i made a mistake (in my other message), the information is transmitted from neuron to neuron as protein, not as energy, sure you could say, that protein is transformed in energy, but that is not true for all protein, since they have a wide field of action and purposes.
Nice. I just read the whole article, but it looks like you summed up all the important points below. I don't really get what a Prion is haha, but that's a minor detail... interesting reading indeed. I'm probably missing out on some key points (like do they really mention it's different from disposable RAM storage, isn't the article detailing the random potential for long-term memory, and not how that memory would be affected if the system shuts off?), but the fact that the process happens at random catches my attention the most, or supposedly at random... but there must be some kind of technique involved in creating a lasting memory.
Proteins, got it. Food for thought. :P
Also cool looking banner/poster/logo/forum firm, damn it can be lots of things.
Yeah, it's like a promo poster in banner form with built in logo. :P
It said that there is a current debate about them crying tears, for example dogs cry, but not with tears they whimper. Tears as a form of expression and all that jazz.
Haha that's awesome! No one ever made me fan art :P
I think this might be the first time someone made something for me without me asking for it, tis a special moment. :) Your time will come!
Happy 10th! :D oh yeah I almost forgot. You have got to be one of the nicest people I have met on this site.
Thanks; thanks! I try. :)
Lol, happy 10th Cyberdevil! :D
Thanks again! :)
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