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Happy 10th

2014-02-12 03:47:48 by Cyberdevil

Happy 10 Years!@FistofGreedo thanks for the tribute! :D


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spacegod105spacegod105

2014-02-12 04:20:40

wow, nice sprites and nice bit sprites too, i love the faces!

Cyberdevil responds:

The legendaries collected. :D


tanikozo1tanikozo1

2014-02-12 05:25:27

pretty neat

Cyberdevil responds:

Woot


tailsbuddytailsbuddy

2014-02-12 06:08:53

No cake? :3

Cyberdevil responds:

I should've baked a cake!! Knew I was forgetting something...


NecroionutwizNecroionutwiz

2014-02-12 06:59:36

Cheers!!! :>

Cyberdevil responds:

Cheers and tables! :D


Djsoul88Djsoul88

2014-02-12 09:02:21

HAppy 10th dude!

Cyberdevil responds:

Thanks... again! :D


1999Elias1999Elias

2014-02-12 10:49:13

Lol, happy 10th Cyberdevil! :D

Cyberdevil responds:

Thanks again! :)


devastator-357-MAGdevastator-357-MAG

2014-02-12 15:15:57

Happy 10th! :D oh yeah I almost forgot. You have got to be one of the nicest people I have met on this site.

Cyberdevil responds:

Thanks; thanks! I try. :)


WhirlguyWhirlguy

2014-02-12 15:25:13

Haha that's awesome! No one ever made me fan art :P

Cyberdevil responds:

I think this might be the first time someone made something for me without me asking for it, tis a special moment. :) Your time will come!


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-12 18:47:23

It said that there is a current debate about them crying tears, for example dogs cry, but not with tears they whimper. Tears as a form of expression and all that jazz.

Cyberdevil responds:

Ah! Interesting.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-12 18:49:39

Also cool looking banner/poster/logo/forum firm, damn it can be lots of things.

Cyberdevil responds:

Yeah, it's like a promo poster in banner form with built in logo. :P


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-12 20:27:31

Yo man this is a fresh one straight out of the oven: http://www.newswise.com/articles/what-makes-memories-last

Is a study that points out on the nature of the formation in long term memories, (which again are chemical process not really energetic), the study shows how Prions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion may have a crucial role in the management of memories by affecting the formation of protein to facilitate the storage in neurons (this also means that we may have one rare specimen of Prion a benign Prion!).

I found it quite interesting because the article shows a behavior quite apart from that of a RAM, we could say that, sure some argue that the brain may be a computer, but a bio machine still behaves quite differently enough to not really resemble a computer at all, and this supports that notion.

The article is not really that long, and it shows a really interesting point, i think they may be really getting close to something there, sure is an initial research but is solid enough.

Also i made a mistake (in my other message), the information is transmitted from neuron to neuron as protein, not as energy, sure you could say, that protein is transformed in energy, but that is not true for all protein, since they have a wide field of action and purposes.

Cyberdevil responds:

Nice. I just read the whole article, but it looks like you summed up all the important points below. I don't really get what a Prion is haha, but that's a minor detail... interesting reading indeed. I'm probably missing out on some key points (like do they really mention it's different from disposable RAM storage, isn't the article detailing the random potential for long-term memory, and not how that memory would be affected if the system shuts off?), but the fact that the process happens at random catches my attention the most, or supposedly at random... but there must be some kind of technique involved in creating a lasting memory.

Proteins, got it. Food for thought. :P


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-12 22:28:48

Also ch-che-check this out: https://vimeo.com/85228844

Cyberdevil responds:

Che-che-checked it out! Awesome mix, though I was expecting some revelations on what's actually allowed or not. :D Recognized a lot of those classics, lot of music I like!


S3CS3C

2014-02-13 00:17:36

prions aren't bad. as a short, loose definition, prion just means a protein that is resistant to being cut. everyone has them and therefore they serve a purpose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrP_structure#Function), it's just when they're misfolded they become bad because they induce further deleterious misfolding of other prion proteins...and they are no longer able to carry out necessary biological functions. the folding is irreversible and unstoppable. one of the weirdest prion diseases is fatal familial insomnia, where people literally are not able to fall asleep and eventually die probably because of dementia. That's horrifying to think about.

the mechanism makes sense. in order to retain something unique over a long period of time, cut-resistant, proteins in an extremely stable confirmation are the perfect biomolecules that store the 'code' that calls for a unique connection of certain neurons across the brain, that invoke a unique memory. (the reverse of what Doomroar said, I could be wrong in my understanding/assessment though) It's not like DNA is continuously modified throughout life to store memories in our genetic code-or is it? in the form of deja-vu. It really boggles the mind [/superganhdi64]

all protein action, and truly all chemical, mechanical, or otherwise physical reactions require some kind of energy transfer, either by absorbing or emitting it.

Cyberdevil responds:

You read my mind man! Way better than the wikipedia definition... and yeah that's pretty bizarre, a disease with no known cure either... scary. :/

lol that superganhdi64 quote.

Well we were speaking about that via PM earlier, I thought memories were stored in the form of energy (neurons maybe) and could be compared to computer RAM in that when energy is cut off to the brain all memory is purged, so that's what he was explaining below. Thanks for this added info!


S3CS3C

2014-02-13 00:20:49

i should also clarify my first paragraph to avoid providing misinformation.... I shouldn't have said "therefore they serve a purpose"-just because we have something doesn't mean it provides a purpose currently, but it does mean that such had a function at some point in ancestral species.

Cyberdevil responds:

Ah, I take for granted most of the workings within the human body serve some purpose though, only thing I know of that doesn't is the tailbone, remnant of times past, but who knows maybe there is some reason we still have that as well. Maybe it helps balance, maybe it's a spare part to be potentially used in surgery... seems there's nothing for nothing.


VicariousEVicariousE

2014-02-13 05:27:54

Very nice tribute pic indeed! Oooh, look at the comments below. Lots of big words. "A weed is nothing more than a plant we currently haven't found a use for yet." -- some famous guy, I'm sure. My 13th anniversary is mere days away, I doubt it will be festive though..

Cyberdevil responds:

Words of wisdom. :D Coincidentally, most weeds are plants that people used to have a use for, but which they've now forgotten in the frenzy of fast meals and manic automatic manufacturing. 13 is a... lucky number. :P


VicariousEVicariousE

2014-02-13 07:09:24

The 13ths have always been kinda lucky or atypical :) The knights templar got nothin' on me!

Cyberdevil responds:

Friday 13 templar reference? Had to go Wikipedia that. comment. :P Yeah I like to consider 13 a lucky number specifically because nobody else does, might've started off as rebellion but now... it's a number I associate with good fortune... and a bad set of movies.


SuperElroySuperElroy

2014-02-13 15:55:59

Can't go wrong with demons and cybernetic brains with chain guns!

Cyberdevil responds:

As long as there are brains it's all OK!


S3CS3C

2014-02-13 18:01:48

Well, it depends how you look at it, regarding the semantic description of energy. On one hand energy is just a property describing an object, with an object with lots of energy being able to do work. So in this sense, energy isnt actually stuff, but then you need to stuff to do stuff, so energy has to be stuff, and thusly energy is matter (and it mathematically is such, according to Einstein's most popular law E = mc^2). so essentially memory IS stored by energy. proteins and cells (such as neurons) are made of molecules, which are made of atoms, which are made of electrons, which can be divided into even smaller subparticles, which have their own energetic charges. So there's probably a point when approaching an infinitesimally small size, where a particle divides into just "raw" energy...mostly conjecture here, and world salad aside: you are fundamentally right. Although now you know or have a clearer idea that memory is stored in actually physically observable molecules, not something so mysterious and infinitely abstract as energy :P

I actually think the brain operates a lot like a computer. At the end of this paragraph, you may agree with me that everything in life is practically the same. The prions in this case being the .swf files, and the neurons being the .swf player. Some memories are only temporarily cached, and are "deleted" once you close your browser. I put "deleted" in quotes because some would argue that you never truly lose memories, just can't retain them- while on the other hand some computer forensic scientist would attest you can never truly delete any information on your computer. Obviously both cannot be physically true, as there are size constraints that will come into play at some point. One is stored in the form of machine code, the other in nucleotide sequences. Both are optimally simple at their core but give rise to an infinitely complex and unique things from being arranged in an infinite amount of unique ways. Everything in the world can fundamentally be reduced to 1s and 0s, but there is no limit on the amount of combinations you can have regarding binary code. Numbers are infinite.

Cyberdevil responds:

Hmm, energy traveling through energy to get to a specific area of energy. :) Makes me think of how they recently (though it was probably a while back now, it's recent to me) discovered that empty space is actually filled with particles. Not that this is relevant at all... anyway, thanks or this additionally intriguing explanation/theorization!

The brain is definitely like a computer, or a computer is like a human, the brain the processor, the neurons RAM, prions drives (does that make sense?), nerves cables, blood cooling, lungs fans, GPU eyes, mainframe body, mobo skeleton... hmm. Ah, interesting simile. As for data never being erased on a computer, if you had an HD with infinite space (as you could argue the brain has... not infinite of course, but with so much space it'd seem that way to any normal individual), then it's true nothing would ever be deleted, but with limited space new files would over-write the old ones and make them unrecoverable. Deleting files just deletes the record, much the same way I guess certain memories are harder to remember if you don't store them the right way (memorize them), but with the right software (IRL hypnosis) they can be recovered all the same.

What'd be really interesting to know is what size constraints there are in the brain. If we lived 1000 years, would the brain have enough capacity to store all our memories? Is it possible to in a regular lifetime experience so much that the brain writes over old memories; does this happen already, in modern-day? And how are different experiences stored, what takes up more space, smells, sounds, images? What algorythms does the brain use to handle each type of data? It'd be interesting to know...


S3CS3C

2014-02-13 18:26:47

Ahh, you speak of the coccyx? Most ladies say I have a huge one. Must be God's way of compensating me for giving me a small body part of similar name.

Well as you say, or at minimum implied, everything in the body can have some kind of purpose, even if it's for a non-natural biological method such as "replacement organ/limb/bone". Good thought there, although not medically practical as of now, wisdom teeth could be used for molar replacement, the appendix could be used to replace parts or as a new resection intermediate for the colon. even on a molecular level, non-coding DNA (dormant genes that had a use in ancestors) can protect the important DNA and regulate genetic processes.

there's plenty of body parts in the human that have a diminished to no know known current function: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality

It takes time for genes to be turned off, my prediction, in a million years give or take, humans no longer have wisdom teeth. I know of several people who never grew them; I only had 3 lol!

Cyberdevil responds:

lmao, it's actually called a coccyx!! Ah yes, the balance of nature (or potential god). I find it gets in the way a bit of doing sit-ups, this coccyx.

Bone-marrow transplantation maybe? Yeah, I have that same theory with wisdom teeth, and I was recently made aware that teeth have a habit of pushing themselves towards the front of the mouth, so without molars they just might fill the gaps. Hmm hmm, way over my head but that sounds useful.

Interesting! Didn't know most of this stuff...

I'm not so sure wisdom teeth will disappear. I myself grew all four, and still have them... and they're actually pretty handy to have even if I don't need to maul plant fibers. :) It's an overall larger surface for chewing all types of material, though admittedly they are harder to reach with a brush and one of the upper ones is a bit slanted. I was thinking of having them removed since it seemed they were pushing together my front teeth too much, but it seems they stopped, so I'm glad I didn't (which btw was because the x-ray showed it'd be a complicated procedure to remove, roots all tangled up with the other teeth and stuff). Wonder if the appendix will disappear eventually though...


S3CS3C

2014-02-13 18:30:17

@VicariousE

"Unapplied knowledge is abstract nonsense" - Me, describing my life

sounds like S3C blurb material

Cyberdevil responds:

"Abstract nonsense seems like poetry" - Unknown, thinking there should've been a cleverer way to formulate that...


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-13 19:40:26

Thanks @S3C you covered a lot of points that i didn't, yeah Prions arent bad but most of them are malicious once they unfold in the brain, however this doesn't seems to be the case with Orb2, that among other things seems to be closely linked to the formation of long term memory. Also i never really touched the subject of how Prions work so i don't know if that is the contrary or not of what i say, but you are mostly correct, and yes indeed they don't have a purpose per say.

Well you see Mr S3C i myself am not really sure of what was the approach of Cyberdevil when comparing the Brain to a RAM, as i interpreted it, i can't remember no more, only that i kinda disagree haha, it is really a long conversation that still goes on now, so we should put things into context to avoid misunderstandings, but i think you managed to tie everything up nicely.

I think i agree with you in part, while the brain can be (and it is) compared to a computer i still see it as a quite different thing apart from a normal computer, obviously since it requires for the concepts to be simplified so much, until the pint when we talk about quantum mechanics, i like your clarification we were in the right track in most of things i think, but if we weren't, then we sure are now XD, also do you know the limit of info that can be stored in the brain? that question appeared at some point, but i didn't really had a answer for it, neither do i know if there has been successful research in that field.

Wisdom teeth, those molars that are suppose to "hurt" like hell when they come out? i guess i got lucky in that aspect.

Pff nonsense! i am pretty damn sure CyberD can make one hell of a story with all this weed... i-i-i mean knowledge... knowledge.

Yeah the mix was really good, i agree it could have more of an educational, historic approach, and be a little more long, have more samples, and some info on legal uses, nevertheless it was an interesting video.

Cyberdevil responds:

Huh, my approach still confounds and confuses? Well I must admit it confounds and confuses me too. :P This brain matter material is a topic for precision optics... I'm more at home with philosophical division dropkicks.

You didn't get any wisdom teeth? Yet? They were a bit troublesome growing up, but once they stopped growing the trouble stopped. I think a lot of people pluck them out with waiting long enough to see if they'll fit or not.

lol. If you know ledge then you won't stumble!

indeed.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-13 20:55:54

You know what forget what i said it is even closer that i thought it was brain computer!!!! or artificial neurons, however you want to hype it: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-02/iop-bpt021114.php

Cyberdevil responds:

Interesting. Here's some other interesting thing: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134427-a-paper-based-backup-solution-not-as-stupid-as-it-sounds


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-13 20:58:54

However i admit i am a little bit skeptic about how close it really is, or can get to the real deal.

Cyberdevil responds:

Seems like a pretty awesome development though!


VicariousEVicariousE

2014-02-14 02:49:34

Unapplied knowledge is a weed looking for purpose.. but yeah, I like S3C's quote much better!

@doomroar http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/630667 just past the halfway mark, you'll find that the math of, well, everything, isn't what we were taught. The human mind is a truly holistic electrochemical sponge... hard to quantify it given our current perspective. But we are beginning to, and that's all that matters.

Cyberdevil responds:

A seventeen minute revelation! Indeed.


VicariousEVicariousE

2014-02-14 18:00:00

I'm telling you, this kid Jordan is onto something. He's been through dozens of crappy New Age books to get at the truth of things. Anything that can explain science and God in good measure, deserve a good look-see. He's his keystone argument

Just checked... 990 favorite users on my list, and Jordan definitely got bumped |: It's getting worse! Or, more likely, a cap got put into place after I had over a thousand faves. Meh.

Cyberdevil responds:

I should probably watch it again. Remember thinking it was something genius, but as I can nae imagine what genius it was the point probably didn't have as big an impact as it should have...

A cap below a thousand? :/ That'd be a strange cap... I noticed the favorites system is bugging when you delete favorites though, can only delete one at a time. Though I haven't checked in some time, might be fixed...


VicariousEVicariousE

2014-02-14 18:02:38

Whoops, here's his math thing... http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/600446
It's a bit off topic, but knowledge is a uphill battle, and you gotta start at the bottom.

Cyberdevil responds:

Ah, shorter than the last one too! :D Don't think I've watched this, will give it a shot tomorrow when my mind's clear.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-14 19:39:50

Dropping those dropkics on all those comments, rhyming when the timing is itching for the ining but what was in the beginning that we were debate-ing? you know i really can't remember by this point what our initial stand point in the topic were XD.

I got 2 wisdom teeth maybe 3? i cant remember since they didn't really hurt as they appeared they didn't leave much of a memorable impression in me, they were just more teeth growing out, so i think that people exaggerate, or maybe my dentist was high and those were normal molars XD hahaha.

Ledge is good, but if you go by the edge then you will get the thrills!

Oh man all that paper! interesting.

Lol wrong vid, well Mr @VicariousE i remember that one quite well actually http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/600446 and i also remember that i didn't agree completely with Jordan mostly because there was a need for some deeper explanation on both his vision and concepts http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/0d289ff5e147da333f5122e66c0faa4a however his reply was not really all that much help, indeed on the contrary it made got even more lost, so i send him a PM that day, but i didn't got a reply, basically i asked him to define the concepts of light and consciousness as well as the Unified Field.

But that is not the first time that this happens, in most of his videos this occurs, he is great until a point when suddenly he skips a crucial explanation, that never gets really solved, however he takes it as a given, that everyone knows the part he didn't touched.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/622860 this is the last video i commented on, i don't care no more about it, for real what is the point of asking if you don't get an answer? and when you do the thing couldn't be more ambiguous?

Cyberdevil responds:

About the originalos of these dropkicks, I think it was.. no that's not it. Some emotional response blockage, and why do Chinese eat with chopsticks? We are definitely getting off topic. :P

Oh, sounds like you got them removed then?

A killer thriller! A pack of action! And if somebody with a trampoline's on-the-street, just might go for comedy. :P

Indeed. :) I was actually searching for a report I read a few years back that some Russians were experimenting with using regular paper as an HD, as actual storage, not just something you print. It probably wasn't real paper, but it looked like paper... I think. Couldn't find the link to that though, stumbled upon this instead.

Hmm, not my discussionm I guess but that light theory's one I've been curious about lately. Did you know there are people who strive to live only on light, without food/sleep/etc? The 'white light' people see when they die could be compared to the Buddhist's Nirvana, they claim it's a place for replenishing energies, but Nirvana is just a mental state (which leads you to question what importance the body really has) whereas all other religions see the light as the passageway to the afterlife... which if it does coincide with the Buddhist approach, might be the same light used for replenishing and could be linked to multiple lives and disprove most main religions. Though as it's a mental state you don't need to die to reach it, but anyway,, that's just something I've been reading and thinking about lately. With your views on science I don't expect you'll consider it the same!


VicariousEVicariousE

2014-02-14 19:54:22

@Doomroar You're right, it's a tough nut of facts that don't jibe well with regular math, but he's describing points of interest, not the routes between them. And let's be frank, this stuff just is not taught academically. It's easy to get pissed that science is still in a big catch-up phase, despite our rapid, recent advances.

Cyberdevil responds:

Word.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-14 20:40:25

@VicariousE Sigh... really is not that i wanted a detailed exposition of everything, i just wanted to at least understand the idea behind the concepts, so i could at least agree or not with whatever he says, but if you tell me something like "Source Consciousness is the infinite field of awareness of the Unified Field".

That is fine, it's actually an answer... but i have no idea what Source Consciousness is, or what the infinite field is, or that this infinite field is aware, or what awareness is in this sense, or what the unified Field is.

All those are foreign concepts to me.

I got something similar with CyberD when we touched the subject of the "Soul" (for some reason), but at least we managed to get to an idea of what the soul is or at least does (i think we did), so even if i don't agree with CyberD at least i know what he means when he talks about the soul, but with Jordan i have nothing, if Jordan ever mentions the soul in one of his videos... is he talking about what i know by Soul, what CyberD knows by Soul, or something completely different? so i ask him: what is this soul you mention here? and sure if i am lucky he will tell me: ah well soul is A and C in the geometry of everything. But then what are A and C supposed to be? and really the same goes for the geometry of everything, i know more about that one, but i still have no idea of what it certainly is, and you could say, well the same goes for gravity in the end it's still some mystery, what are "gravitons" even supposed to be? granted is an hypothetical particle, it may not even exist, but at least if i search for it i can get an idea of what the idea is about then agree or not with it.

Likewise both gravitons and geometry of everything require of some specialized knowledge, that i know i don't have, so it is clear that i wont know completely what gravitons are, but i can at least say that they are a hypothetical massless particles that are supposed to mediate the force of gravitation, from there i have to search for "spin" in quantum mechanics and so and so, and they are accessible i just a search the words and i start getting definitions, and a context, and a field of study, however! if i search "geometry of everything" at best i find this https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/ but is this even the same thing Jordan was talking about?

Cyberdevil responds:

Ah yeah, it all started with poetry, and that tendency to dive too deep into the depths of meaning, a poem example that suddenly spiraled into a debate on the human core... it all comes back to me now! :D He could make videos answering all the questions he gets btw, that'd surely be appreciated by a batch of people.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-15 06:34:33

Haha offtopic what is that? we never deviated in our conversations!(delusion at its finest)

Na i still have all my teeth, is just that as they come out they don't hurt at all, i am sure those were wisdom teeth, because well numbers.

When it comes to comedy on the streets with tampon lines, is all about bananas condoms and the birds and the bees.

Haha both sound interesting, the closest to that i have heard is conductive ink to make circuits on paper (and a bunch of other surfaces).

I have heard a rumor about people trying to live with only light as food source, but i really have no info about it, but for real... how? within 3 days or so they should die of dehydration, forget about starvation just the fact of not drinking water is enough.

As for the "white light" no idea man, i sincerely got lost, because as i understand it, if you attain Nirvana you are reborn spiritually, but you still conserve your flesh, while in the other religions you need to die first not mentally but physically, so the differences are kinda big, and yet i don't see how previous lives come to play here, specially when in the first you retain your body, you could say that you connect with your other lives once you attain Nirvana and now your true self inhabits your body, but... mmmh, na, i just don't see it, theology is not really my forte, and to unite the reincarnation cycles in Buddhism with the unique souls of other religions seems challenging, because for starters, i don't really understand all those concepts, i mean we already talked about the soul, but here is another cake... what is Nirvana? like really, what is that true-self anyway? i have no idea.

Haha, yeah poetry, C.S. Lewis right? haha.
Word, a video of Q&A would be awesome!

Cyberdevil responds:

lol. Least those chopsticks were off topic. :P

Got it. Yeah it seems to be different for everyone, I have a buddy who pulled out all four just as a precaution, another who's never had any trouble at all... don't know about the rest, haven't spoken to many people about wisdom teeth hmm... @VicariousE do you have any wisdom teeth?

(cont.) I have an urge to purge some debris.

Ah, it's all about the paper nowadays. :D The thing with these Russian experiments was that the total storage quota could be much larger than a regular mechanic HD, despite the lack of mass. Really wonder what happened to that, starting to wonder if it was a hoax or something... though if that's the case, news sites were fooled as well.

Yeah logically it'd be lethal! But if you believe (as they do) that everything is made up of energy (which it actually is, btw, though not in the form they believe - according to the science we 'know') you don't need to consume material to survive, only energy. I don't know about the food aspect, but I've heard of a few who have no trouble surviving with incredibly little sleep... so it's an intriguing idea.

According to Buddhists it's a mental state of mind, unrelated to the body, you can reach it when you live, but also when you die. Even if you're reborn you pass through Nirvana before starting over; it's all that white light. In that case, the mind would be considered separate to the body, like a manifestation of the soul (here we go again lol)... yeah, other religions don't have the same focus on meditation, that ambition of 'transcending the body', but since people of all religions (even those of no religion) supposedly see the light when they die, then it could all be linked together. As for the previous lives thing, I guess I get that from the 'Many Men, Many Masters' reading... but just disregard that aspect, if there's an afterlife or not is irrelevant, but if you can reach the same state of being when your alive as when you die, it should hint at how there is another plain of existence that we are shielded/keep ourselves away from. It's an interesting concept I think though I don't believe it strongly enough to really embrace the thought pattern I guess I'd need to try it myself. Nirvana is just a state of being, it's not a place to be, it's a way to be. And there's no truth, so true-self is a relative concept. But his is all philosophy of course, no science, no fact, no idea. :P

Yupp.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-15 08:46:37

Those chopsticks where all over the topic, like Asians eating ramen!

Yeah i some times find part of my gums still covering (let me check), yeah still covering part of one of the lower wisdom teeth, ha is a funny feeling to move it with the tongue.

All that burning debris is going to make things hot!

Lol well you know how most journalist are, they just jump to get the sensational news, and don't really go deep into it, so they getting fooled is not that crazy or rare.

Wow hold it, it is for real? you have to tell me more of this (apparent nonsense), because sure how do they even assimilate that light? not even plants can live only with light and air... as for the sleep i guess that would be easier to do (compared to a life with no food!), but the health effects should become apparent quite early, wonder what they do or how much they are sleeping per week, the whole thing sounds unreal really.

Well of course there must be a soul, i mean if there is no body but somehow a consciousness still exist... then soul must be the answer (dat soul XD), you know how did they got that light when they die anyway? like the first time, did someone died and then resurrected and started talking about the light? or someone else just started implementing it on their dogma and from there on everyone who had near death experiences started to talk about this light, that was culturally implanted into their world? lol big words yo! this is not philosophy, this is metaphysics! sure at some point philosophy was plagued with such things, but we live after The Age of Enlightenment!
So i did some wikipedian searching and found out that Nirvana in traditional Hinduism requires the self to become Brahman by going beyond oneself, so you turn into some kind of god version of yourself, while in Buddhism what you do is separating yourself, emptying oneself in order to ultimately be able to live without desires, without distractions which in turn facilitates the religious practices, it seems that while they are both similar they are both different.
So i guess the Buddhist one is easier to understand than the classical one, which is more esoteric, and thus more weird, i still don't get it all that well.

Cyberdevil responds:

If the topic is Ramen, then it is all over!

Ah, I had that for a long time, funny feeling too, but for me it was momentarily painful, I think I eventually tried to chew off some of the flaps of skin... don't remember if that's how I got rid of them or if they just disappeared by themselves though...

In the parking lot with cars sparking shocks and blowing off their tops!

That's true, but I can't remember any other times I've read any false news... apart from The Onion. :P

Hard to find a neutral source of information on the topic, but here's a start:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/breatharian.htm
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/14/living-on-light-without-food

Yeah, it sounds unreal. Just skimmed the above, but it seems to refer to those attemptint to live off of sunlight, not really the 'inner-light-state-of-being' and yes it seems like water is the problem. Even plants need water to survive...

That's the spirit! I mean soul. I mean metaphors. :P Yeah, people that have been resurrected (been resuscitated or shocked back to life, for example) have talked about the light, plenty of people have come to some kind of epiphany after seeing it, no matter if their were/are religious or not. So if the soul is (as it seems you also think :) then what's the world? What are the real limitations? It's like the Matrix you know, break free, find new truths - kind of idea. :)

Don't know if it's become a dogma with time though, maybe people imagine the light without seeing it just because they've heard ot if; maybe the light is an effect of the brain shutting down and has nothing to do with an otherworldly experience, but it seems the light is all but damaging so that doesn't seem logical.

It's a mesh of metaphysics and philosophy when there are no validated facts. :) Yeah! We live in the age of white lightenment! :P Maybe.

Huh, didn't know about Hinduism. I have easier to relate to Buddhism, probably because of how there is no higher entity controlling everything, the ones who do become 'gods' are regular people who attain Nirvana and decide to help out - according to their faith. But this brings the question of fate into a new light, because to reach Nirvana they must sacrifice their selves; live for others, and thus, they have no choice but to help others. So maybe there's really someone else luring behind the scenes hmm...

You mean Hinduism is the classic; Buddhism a modern version of it?! I thought it was the other way.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-15 19:35:44

They eat it thoroughly! liking the bowl and all, it was kinda passionate, Toriko stile.

Really? no pain for me, i do remember i got a headache with one but that is about it, it was quite a boring experience for me this growing teeth thingy haha.

It was quite a kinky scene that day, topless cars sparking with their lustful open engines and their dimes blown all over their vines, and wine so much wine, they were whining while winning while drunk, what a bunch of punks!

Seems like quite some of them have died while trying or get really close to death, the "successful" ones don't see all reliable, and it would be nice if Naveena Shine doesn't becomes a pirate with scurvy XD.

But man i don't think that their soul, is the same soul we talked about i mean, that makes no sense XD (unless i forgot our definition of soul haha).

Maybe is the brain trying to cope on its last moments, trying to get with therms to the event of finding itself in the path of death, so it emulates memories of light to distract itself...

We actually live in modernity, some even say post modernity, and the age of enlightenment is quite old already haha (were does the white part comes from anyway? is because it happened manly in Europe? lol), but really the "enlightenment" title doesn't really helps with a theme about attaining enlightenment(Nirvana) XD.

?? son't really get it, if their religion ask them to live for others, and with Nirvana they get to clear their minds of all selfsentered thoughts, desires and distractions... then isn't that just perfect, think about it, they just became "perfect" altruist, we could even say, that they are no longer humans, since their human self is death, their selfish nature is no longer there, i think that is not really there being someone else manipulating, but rather there being no one at all to take control, so their lives is lived for others and not for themselves. Granted i may be misinterpreting this.

(Updated ) Cyberdevil responds:

They eat it vicious, all that's deliciously nutritious!

Heh, well don't be disappointed! I'd rather have had it that way. Seems all people are different. It's like drilling teeth, some people don't even notice it, I must have my nerves near the surface cause drilling is hellish, even with anasthetics. I went to a laser dentist last time; will do so from now on! What a blissful experience it was! Silence.. the smell like popcorn... pain-free. :P

I,.. I don't know what to say. I cannot outshine that orgynal description of carlife! It's like a 1958 Cadillac 60 Special.

Yupp, the ones who die are the ones people pay attention to. :) I bet there are some living the life that the world won't ever know about; who don't care for making themselves known. True.

Why would the brain emulate light to distract itself? :/ That seems kind of counter-productive. But if it doesn't serve a 'purpose' it might be just like how a screen goes black when it shuts down; our mind goes white when we do.

lol, maybe living a life under a blacklight will let you come to entirely new realizations. :P It's like Gone in 60 Seconds.

Is there a better title? :P Of course, words can never fully express the splendour of that sublime state of mind!! As for the age of enlightenment being a thing of times past, it's a constant thing. we just don't pay it so much attention now because certain events were placed in history; the breakthroughs that happen now are so unfathomable it's like they won't fit in the books, we can't take in all this new knowledge, or make sense of it, or give it a purpose. Like: the light bulb illuminates our homes, it serves a purpose. Now there's grey matter floating around in space, but do people want to know? Do people want to know that the air they breath is full of this stuff? Eh... I lost the red line there, but what I'm saying is: the revelations of today are so much larger.

Nah, you interpreted that way better than I did!


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-15 19:48:19

Yeah Hinduism is waaaaaaaaay more old than Buddhism, remember that Siddhartha was born in India, and it took quite some time for him to pass from prince to monk, and then he had to get married have a son, then he escaped to pursuit the world of stoicism (while the whole place was a mid wars), pass the trails, find the trails as something pointless, develop his philosophy, fight the cast system, then become enlightened, preach the way, and finally die of diarrhea thanks to mushroom poisoning.

And that is just with the original Buddha, i don't really know about all "his reincarnations", as far as i know they may as well be a bunch of posers, like this guy who thinks he is Jesus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuo_Matayoshi so yeah, in the case of the reincarnations of Buddha lets just add, the delusion + a world of mysticism + faith + religion dogma + a little bit of continuity = and we have people convinced that Buddha has come back, i don't know if Tenzin Gyatso thinks and sees himself as the reincarnation of Buddha, but by this point even if he likes it or not, he has to bear with the tittle, lets apply this to the past, and now we get people pretty much living certain of reincarnation being real, specially if we say that every enlightened one has become one with Buddha, in that case is not Buddha reincarnating, but people getting enlightenment, and now i guess we can see the obvious misunderstandings.

You know i like this phrase: "if you meet the Buddha on the road kill him." it is related to Zen practice, more exactly Koan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan and is in short, the Buddhist version of skepticism, is nice to see how they have these things, while everyone else is blinded by faith.

Cyberdevil responds:

Yeah, I remember reading that... but somehow I always thought Buddhism was the ancient philosophy; that maybe he embraced that before forming his own religion. Shaolin monks... the ancients... feels like they've been around forever. :) As for Buddhist reincarnations, you could say that Buddhists believe that everyone is a 'Buddha', or has the potential to become one. Being a reincarnation is one thing, but being a 'Buddha' is like being enlightened, it's become a symbol rather than an identity, like you say.

Ah, interesting. Yeah it's nice they don't have that absolutism in their faith, though I wonder if they still actively question their own religion, like the founders did... probably not the same way.

Man I didn't know that thing about mushroom poisoning! Or that Asian Jesus. Crazy.


S3CS3C

2014-02-16 02:46:36

I used my wisdom teeth when I had them, which was probably around 7-8 years after they fully grew and then got pulled. They were never a problem, caused any pain, or posed a threat to the rest of my teeth. A cavity finally appeared on one of them, and as you say- they're hard to brush (and floss) and the dentist's suggestion was just to get them removed, rather then fill them (and probably have to do it again the future). But I haven't had any difficulties eating or anything now that they're gone. And while it's a case by case basis, I was only in moderate pain for one day (only had to resort to painkillers once), the procedure was simple, and I was completely healed in a week.

overall point: organisms try to be biologically conservative, they lose unnecessary appendages over very long periods of time, to make room for newer or modified ones that helps them thrive better in their (new) environment. With that said, perhaps 'conservative' wasn't the best choice of words, as 98% of human DNA is noncoding! what that means is, only 2% of our DNA are actual genes that are turned 'on' that create proteins necessary to maintain our health and development from a zygote to adult. Makes me wonder how much features that we've accumulated and still retain from past species that we've evolved from. What if a single cell was sent off to an advanced civilization with advanced technology in a different galaxy...what could they decrypt about life on Earth, its species, and the biological functions we had?

About the brain- no idea what its physical limits may be, but by the time we have evolved to reach 1000 years, surely we will have evolved the physical brain mass and capacity to store such a lifetime of memories. If anything, there would be technology to store such on separate (organic?) media and mechanisms to even search or brain for specific subjects, or even review what we did on one day...i find it fascinating to think about. Put a small sensor on your forehead, or an earplug of some type- "ahh, what was it that I was doing February 16, 1995?". there would be no need for cramming on tests, amongst other things. Memorization wouldn't be a factor in schooling, but creative thinking, categorization, and overall intelligence would be taken to new heights.

Cyberdevil responds:

Ah, sounds reassuring. I've had some bad experiences with dentists here in Sweden, should maybe travel abroad if I get any serious work done... though so far it looks like all teeth are doing OK. Went to one dentist a couple of years back who found 8 cavities, I went to another one to get a new assessment... and he only found one, and to top it off one that the previous one hadn't found. Doesn't really enforce my trust in the industry... btw, I read recently that the US are working with ozone treatment to prevent and partially heal cavities, is that something you've tried/know about?

I wish we'd have evolved through crocodiles, that infinite-regeneration-of-teeth feature is something I'd have liked to try. :) Would be interesting indeed.

Hmm, external brains maybe? That'd be interesting. If we fully understood the brain, it should be possible to store information in a similar manner, would be interesting with the ability to store, transfer and share all forms of sensory information... it'd be an inspiring world, but at the same time it'd be pretty complicated to live in. With that technology the expectations on each individual would be way higher than it is now.


S3CS3C

2014-02-16 02:55:48

"Abstract nonsense is the pinnacle of intelligence" -S3C the modern day Sophist

Cyberdevil responds:

Hmm, wisdom: new word learned.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-18 21:33:39

Oh man, is reading other peoples dental life that i find out nice my mouth has been doing, 0 here, maybe is because i am not a fan of sugar in general? i don't really floss, but i brush constantly, getting to the wisdom teeth is not really that hard for me, mmh, weird.

Crocodiles are cool! but inst there a mammal with teeth regeneration out there? i don't like that sun warming dependency they have.

I like the earplug more, the less invasive the better, you know because paranoia and stuff, plus health constrains, and there is also the operation, though it is probably that the forehead implant would be cheaper than the earplug, mmmh fuck it, it would still be awesome to have regardless, worth the risk.

Actually he didn't really embrace it, he had to fight all the other monks of that age, because he was kinda the communist fella, and dem monks were bourgeois yo!

Yeah, it is probably the ones on the high post that are allowed to come with the questions, and is probably that those have grown complacent enough as to not bother with questioning the thing.

Yeah, since they eat what they could, and what was collected (they didn't accepted money only clothes and food), who knows where those mushrooms came from.
Lol crazy, crazy, crazy Japan.

Cyberdevil responds:

Yeah I started caring for my teeth way too late. Haven't exactly been eating a lot of junk food but I guess there's still been plenty of sugar (carbohydrates are all converted to sugar too, btw... though probably not relevant to teeth). Went days sometimes without brushing, didn't care/think of consequences I guess. Good habits save a lot o work!

Hmm: http://phys.org/news/2013-05-alligator-dental-regeneration-tooth-humans.html

Can't find much info on mammals though, article mentions that 'extant mammals' can regrow one tooth at a time, and another type (our type I guess) not at all.

Forehead sensor? Took a while to figure out what that was in response to. :P

lol good knowing.

Yeah, but then again if they're doing the right theing there's no need to question it.

Oh yeah! And I seem to recall they're not allowed to refuse anything either, they place their trust fully in other people. It's like that act of selflessness cancels out the more selfish act of relying on others for food. Though I guess plenty do make their own...


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-18 21:51:59

(Damn replied this in the wrong order, anyway...)

Nutritious like a nutria on virtuous fish shops with some bishops, and equally senseless.

Cadillacs, now i am thinking about Outkast! southern playalistic cadillac muzik (write it without looking!)

Those living the life? sure the after life! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI)

Well you know, the same way the brain emulates a consciousness? it emulates light to distract itself from death (according to myself).

Well you know euro-centrist mentality makes you a little bit paranoid each time the word white is involved without apparent link to the theme haha, i blame the Greeks.

Wait what? sure the revelations are larger, but we can document them just the same, plus in the age of information to spread these findings is even easier (yeah, unless we get another inq).

Cyberdevil responds:

lol, noticed

Are these cheesy pieces of wheat biscuits or what is this?

Ahh, memories. Write without looking? I could type that in my sleep! Southerplayalisticadillacmuzik ... oh damn I missed an n! Popping in that playlist right now though.

lol, haven't heard that joke before. :P

Hmm, but if we have some form of soul, consciousness would be included no?

Didn't know it was called euro-centrist mentality! Soon as word black's involved the potential for racism pops into mind for me. Sweden's at a phase now where racism is used as an excuse for anything, people call out 'racism' as soon as people speak of limiting immigration, saying that pensioners should get as much allowance as immigrants... people use the word without knowing what it means, they ban ice-cream and dessert names with the word 'black' in them thinking it may offend something. Getting a bit twisted....

The revelations are more abstract maybe? They can be documented, but can't be given a title you know? Not one everybody understands. True, the challenge now is finding useful knowledge in the stuffy stream.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-18 21:54:09

(the hell my comment send itself when i miss pressed Esc)

So like i was saying: yeah, unless we get another inquisition, we are still in the age of enlightenment, or like it is trendy to say nowadays, post-enlightenment.

Cyberdevil responds:

Malware check?

Enlightenment through posts is what I'm all about. :)


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-20 01:03:47

(ok this one is in order and by order i mean i start with the with the 2nd/3rd comment and then the 1st one last...)

Is a nutria eating fish, that was fished by Jesus and sold by a bishop at a church by the river...

Is always that n in southern, wonder why is that?

Ah but there is the problem IF we have a soul... if, XD.

You have black ice cream? that is not called chocolate or coffee? intriguing.

Na but what i am talking about is a different thing, beyond an apparent excuse to diminish the problem of racial discrimination, here give it a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocentrism is mainly brought up in history since as it is taught it always starts in Europe, then it moves to the Americas, and it ignores the rest of the world, but it happens in all other fields really. So when you said white lightenment, i couldn't help it and remember that at that time important parts of the movement like the Irish or the Jews were ignored for not being all that white, and hell those are white as they get, now just think about everyone else then, and now add the people that still thing those other parts weren't really important, and now we have an academic problem in how things are taught. But that was not the case at all here, thus i was a victim of euro-centrist mentality.

Why wouldn't you be able to gave them a title accessible to everyone? like Enlightenment through posts! (Malware checked, it probably wasn't Esc, but then just what did i press? i know i did something... my hand was all over the place as i was typing.)

I don't drink soda so carbohydrates are not a prob. Oh man i remember those days, when you were able to get a week of a successful rotation from bed to computer desk and to bed again, shower? brushing? eating? hell no! the PC calls! XD.

Nice. damn mammalian mouth care sucks (oh the puns!).

Only if they are doing the right thing, and how do they know if they stop questioning? PON PON PON!

They probably picked them somewhere nearby and well... not everyone is an expert on fungi, but man what an uncool death he had.

Cyberdevil responds:

(alrighty then!)

So a bishop sold the fish? Jesus could've made a bolder dish, maybe made it glow with boulder-like smouldering bits of Macaroni chips.

Hmm, true... even though they lost the war. Odd.

That is a problem/question/mystery(with no answer). :D

Yeah, liquorice flavor. You don't have that?

Ah, seems like a sentiment leftover from a time when the rest of the world was new and unknown... doesn't seem like it has anything to do with Irish people btw, haven't they always lived within Europe too? It's had some pretty bad uses over the years, this viewform... btw, do you know if there's a word for the American viewpoint, viewing the world from an entirely American-perspective?

Well because it's no longer clear what purpose everything serves. I mean back when it was revealed the Earth rotated around the sun, or how the tide worked, or that the moon affected the tide, all these things had a direct effect on us, on faith and function etc, but now we are exploring so tiny details or so far away reaches of the universe that you can't really perceive their effect or make use of that knowledge... unless maybe you're a scientist. lol yeah, enlightenment to a certain extent!

Something like Tab Enter?

Carbohydrates are in bread, pasta, pizza, pastries... pretty much everything. :P Haha yeah, I did plenty of eating though, but health and hygene? Naaah... it's amazing how easy it was back then!

lol, indeed

PONY!

Unless he was intentionally poisoned? Ya never know...


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-21 15:11:49

The bishop was stingy, if they made the dish more trendy, they know there wouldn't be plenty, for the gently nutria, plus Jesus was feeling lazy that day.

IF it exist, if... we would find an answer, if...

Touche.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americentrism that leads with ease to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanization a product of imperialism, however some people say that imperialism doesn't exist and that is just an illusion created by globalization, funny that they say that, but i wonder how do they explain coca-cola spreading american songs across the world? colonization has yet to ended.

No project or investigation gets funded for the sake of it, the investors are promised a practical use, and then they release the money, which is then used to investigate those far away things to then by used here.
Enlightenment with limits? how?

It was probably Tab enter.

But of course, haha somehow i made the direct link to carbohydrate drinks. Lol i definitively didn't eat beyond dinner, that served as lunch and breakfast, but i don't have a PC addiction!

Ponies everywhere nowadays.

Is a possibility, they tried to kill him quite a lot of times, among them there was this insistent ex-disciple that ended convinced of the path, but i forgot the name.

Cyberdevil responds:

Yesterday I ate a bar of Nutri-Nick, if you see one best be quick, don't choose just pick. And chew don't lick. Like juice they're rich and huge - a hit. I knew as soon I bit.

<? elseif (statement) = ???

Woo, gotta love how the Chinese article on Americentrism is more extensive than the American one... Americanization seems like a much more established concept though, and it's true, it's happening all over. I think the reason the US are so successful at spreading their culture is because, in difference from a great deal of other countries, they're proud of it. Patriotism is a rare thing nowadays, and the US really use it to their advantage.

Well I'm sure there's a reason for everything, but it might not be one for all of mankind, I'd think most modern-day research is funded by corporations in the interest of profit, or if it is for the betterment of humankind, it's angled, it's according to government agenda or the interests of a certain group/person. But I'm getting sidetracked here... what I meant earlier was how much of our current research isn't as perceptible as it used to be. For example, you can't see grey matter, you can't see cells, you can't see atoms (without devices). But you can see the sun, and how it moves (if you understand how the Earth is moving), you can feel how gravity works, etc. New revelations are much more abstract oftentimes. Not sure what I meant by the 'enlightenment with limits', think it was some pun on the enlightemenment in form of posts but since I don't remember it it must not have been that great. :/

Mystery solved! :D

Carbohydrate drinks? Gotta look that up... ah, I used to eat a ton. I ate breakfast, then I ate some more and then I ate lunch, and I ate some snacks, had tea, ate some more, ate dinner, ate a late night meal... well maybe not every day, in phases, and at least three meals per day... I think. Might have skipped breakfast or lunch but I probably ate an extra meal later on to make up for it. Don't need as much food now but... I like eating, I want to keep eating at the same pace as I used to. :( Is that denial I hear?

Everywhere you look. Even with the horses! It's crazy.

Ah... maybe his death served a purpose then; led someone on the right path, made him a martyr, let him reach Nirvana... btw what do you think about the band?


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-21 19:56:40

You killed the gently nutria to make nutritious nutri-nick!? you know he was homies with Jesus right?

If a soul exist we will find answers about it, since it exist... if not, then not.

Still both could be longer, my guess is that a lot of Americentrism is being disguised under globalization, also the US patriotism gets too crazy even to unhealthy levels, what helps them spread is not really their patriotism, but that they won the war, their initial economic success, and the "american dream" a dream that is really fake but some people still believe in, then there was the subsequent wars on terrorism and drugs that helped to portray the US as a country that defends freedom and peace, while wagging and promoting war elsewhere, all those things helps into spreading and selling an image.

Ah well as knowledge and its fields gets more and more specialized the terminology and its parts also become more well... specialized, and while is complex it is still intelligible once it is explained, because that is also part of science, you know kids are supposed to be graduating from high school knowing at least both Marxism and a second level of fluid physics, but i damn well know i didn't see any Marxism theory until i started U, and i had to get lost on my initial career first!

How do you play video games and eat at the same time!!!???? Denial? pff i am perfectly ok! *starts trembling*

How do they reproduce anyway? is like when they crossbreed dogs of different sizes.

Nevermind is great, not really a fan of Bleach but is kinda good, and i somehow feel they started to lack a bit on In Utero, i think i prefer the Foo Fighters, but Nirvana has this thing that the FF lacks which i still don't know what is.

(Updated ) Cyberdevil responds:

Oh my dog my blog is flawed. O_o

But what is existence? Where do we exist? Where does everything else? Is our dimension the only one, is what we see really there, is what we know really true?

Indeed, and that dream is a part of their patriotism, that's why they love their country! Well that's why some do; that's probably why other people look up to the US as well. It's not always the most opportune place, but I suppose the land of opportunity has some reason behind it. Another question is: is this American dream what breeds psychos, or is it just so that psychos move to America to live that dream? Considering they have the largest portion of them out of any country in the world... that thing about war btw, I'm surprised the Japanese have embraced American culture so much. They were nuked... twice... and suddenly American stuff's all that's trendy. Can't be just a form of obedience can it?

I don't think I learned either of those... with so much to learn, it must be difficult placing focus on the real essentials. Btw, modern science in some fields makes me think of computer work. There's so much work nowadays that relies on computers, that doesn't actually exist. I couldn't be typing this without a computer. And this doesn't really exist. This text isn't actually real. Strange world...

There's usually a key to pause the game. It's a revelation I kknow! :D lol

Artificial insemination maybe? IDK, topic change!!

I've always felt the Foo Fighters were a bit too light-hearted somehow, Nirvana felt real; gritty, might've been all those suicidal tendencies swirling around in Coabin's head that manifested itself in the music.. or maybe that's a perception we get just knowing about them hmm... Smells Like Teen Spirit is just awesome though, so much energy!!


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-22 19:37:54

You know Jesus's dad loves to murder you better think something up!

We don't know any of that, and there is no real answer for that since our senses deceive us.

I don't think that the american dream produces psychos, they were already there, it was part of them for a long time, is just that violence was more acceptable, if we take a cowboy or a colonist and bring him to our current times, we would only see a gun crazy barbarian, and a drunkard, but well those kind of "people" are the ones you need when you invade a land under colonialism.
And the same goes for Japan you know not only did they lose the war, got american bases, but also suffered 2 nuclear bombs, that breaks a country and its people, while they sunk in poverty you get all these foreigners spending money, of course the survivors are mad with their country for entering such a "pointless" war, in denial they now seek an alternative, and that alternative is the american model, while an anti-american sentiment exist no one is feeling patriotic, and the only way to revitalize business is by making it with the Americans, thus they need to actually communicate with them learn of them, adapt and follow, the language starts to morph and change and foreign business start to spread, the economy stabilizes again but the damage is done already.

Come one man this text is real, it is in the form of bits! You know part of the advantage of science is that its theories have direct practical applications, so not everything is virtually cryptic, i know that some say that we need to re-enchant the world, but come on man! while there are mysterious things not everything needs to be like that XD.

Not if is only gaming, and if you somehow do, prepare to get burned once you come back XD.

Oh lithium was quite good too!

Cyberdevil responds:

But if I plot something he'll probably know what I'm plotting, and then the plot'll think and I'll be lost and doomed and forgotten. O_O

Indeed; since we don't know if our senses are our senses or if we are deceived or not.

Hmm, true, so they were the ones initially chasing that dream that defined America before it became the American dream. That evolution in Japan's cultural/economical climate makes sense too.

Yeah but bits don't actually exist. Bits aren't material. The circuits that store them are, but there is no way of indirectly accessing this form of storage. Unless the text is printed, it's like a ghost, it's like we gain access to a parallel dimension through this technological fiber that encloses us.

Hehe yeah, not everything!

You mean online gaming? Yeah, true... apart from flash games I never have been much for online multiplayer. :D

Oh yeah, that's another classic! In school we learned to play this one: http://youtu.be/vabnZ9-ex7o

Not the one I'd chosen as a teacher, but I guess it's one of their safer ones. :D Opened my eyes for the band, at least! I've had Nevermind on my album shelf forever, think I have a pirate copy of In Utero too, somewhere...


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-23 12:30:15

Seems like you are doomed.

Are we even perceiving what we think we perceive!?

Yeah it makes even more sense if now you think that the majority of able male Japanese patriots died in the war, so the ones that remain aren't all that pleased with the country.

If you physically mess with the circuits you can affect the data, so with enough care it is possible!

I see what you did there, clever, clever indeed!

Haha i wasted a lot of time on WoW so there is that... a dark spot of my past... XD.

Damn what a cool school!

As everything becomes digital the physical copies became rarer and rarer, i don't remember the last time i played something straight from the CDs haha.

(Updated ) Cyberdevil responds:

Everything is DooM ED!

I don't even know what I think I perceive that I think! What do you think?

But you*d think that the people who are left are sons and daughters of the people who died. Seeing as everyone who passed had a family you'd think there was a bigger thirst for vengeance. I can see how it'd work the other way though..

Oh, you can? In other ways than just corrupting it? :/

Wow man, you played that game?! I might've started too, a friend gave me a trial version on thirty days, but for some reason I never did use it... glad I didn't, I'd have been stuck there forever. :D

Well hmm huh... maybe it was!

I actually played a CD a couple of days ago. :) Yeah it gets rarer and rarer, usually I have everything I need on the PC but that's in a separate room; I have a stereo leftover from ancient times in mine, usually play some leet banging beats while exercising or just taking a break. Though CDs could be considered digital media too! I grew up with tapes, but it'd have been awesome to live in the age of vinyl, LP covers are like artworks.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-23 17:47:46

Oh that reference!

That it is metaphysics beyond our comprehension! (but it would be nice if it is real)

Yeah but Japan was quite assholes in the war too, and they were defeated kinda badly, it was easier to blame the government who snatched their family to war, made them pass hardship sustaining the troops, with taxes, hunger and censorship, even before going against the US, Japan was not even defending they were out there to expand, to do that and lose must fell like shit, even more if they think that it was not necessary. However i do agree it is weird that they didn't hated the US with more fervor, probably a sentiment of shame for the things they themselves did made them hold back, and yet it is still weird.

Well corrupting is still affecting... XD.

I was hooked on the story thanks to Warcraft 3 (where i also met Dota), but after a while blizzard shitted on the lore and i was able to quit.

"Exercise" what is that!? lololol.
Well Vinyl is taking a wind up lately apparently or so some say, by some statistics that i am not so sure how legit may be http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/vinyl-wont-really-make-a-comeback-until-we-have-more-record-presses
Yeah maybe a more accurate word is virtual instead of digital.

Cyberdevil responds:

The ref are ense! (ense = agreeing with each other)

It must also be metaphysics beyond our compensation! Word.

Hmm, guess so. It was in fact the first time they'd ever lost a war. Speaking of which, did you know the world Kamikaze means 'heavenly wind' and was derived from the time Gengis Khan was getting ready to attack Japan, and had countless ships of his crushed by a sudden tsunami? During the WW2 it feels like Japan were particularly naive, they didn't really contact with the outside world, they'd never lost... they didn't know what they were getting into. They suffered pretty huge losses when those nukes went off, probably many times over what losses they might've caused... guess it might be kinda like the Stockholm Syndrome?

lol true, but you have no control over how you're affecting it! Btw, everything's corrupt: http://youtu.be/73-5iNwb7qo

So you overcame your addiction! Stay strong. It's strange I never got into the series considering I have Starcraft 1 & 2 and Warfract 2 and 3, and some broadwar expansion pack, and that WoW trial I mentioned... and I've never played any of them.

lololol, exercise is: opening a door, getting up in the morning, lying down...

I believe it. :) Not that it's like it was in old times, but it definately seems more popular now than it's been during my lifetime (as far as I remember). They even have racks of LPs in a few common department stores here, it's still more of a collectors thing than a format for practical use, but it's nice that the alternative's there! If I was a tad bit richer I'd buy a few new ones, only have a shitton of second-hand LPs stashed away... classics like Van Halen, Meat Loaf, Europe, Milli Vanilli...


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-23 20:40:50

So will the game be stopped!?

But that is almost as if... you were insinuating that... there are some metaphysics that we can understand O_o!!!

Well it is a compound made out of Kami (god, divinity) and Kaze (wind, air) so yeah XD, also i thought it was a typhoon and not a tsunami, wow looks like things were even more hardcore. I don't really know if they got Stockholm syndrome (it kinda looks like it), but i know that part of their naivety was backed by their own patriotism (and sure enough all those if not most of those patriots ended dead or abandoned), and by the Nazis (which were their allies).

Lol who knows, maybe there is a way to corrupt data in a controlled manner. Oh is the n***a we all love!

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to hate!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T84aFozWKA8

Haha well the things that captivated me were the story behind the dark ones/ancient ones, which is straight out of Lovecraft, and the story of The Horde, FOR THE HORDE!!!

Lying down... take a deep breath, then start doing push ups like a madman? XD.

"during my lifetime" dude! that is huge i can't believe i was talking all this time with a ghost! all this time! no wonder you insist so much in the existence of a soul! hahaha.
Man i have 0 LPs of my own T_T, and my mom had one of Iron Maiden, and then she throw it out! aaah the despair!

Cyberdevil responds:

GameStop? Stock prices are -0.08 (-0.22%) down, maybe.

Hmm? I thought I was saying that if we don't comprehend these metaphysics that we try to comprehend, then compensation for this effort in uncomprehending comprehending just isn't enough!

Oh man, that whirlwind/cyclone/tsunami thing again... and typhoon's not even related. Gotta get my facts straight! So you did know though, I thought not many people did know that, learnt it myself on a 'Japanese History before 1868' course... yeah, and what's a bit twisted is they weren't even white, they're Asian, how did the Germans get them to buy into those Arian ideals anyway? I can understand Russia, and Italy might've felt the peer pressure... but Japan, that's far out.

If there is, I retract all previous statements on the matter. :) Yeah, dat hardcore NGer! Natural born killer: http://youtu.be/c9-M2tqIX38

Aha, so that's what it's based on!

Haha, as long as they're upside-down push-ups, carrying the weight of your entire... arms. :P

I used to ghost a bit, no more. :P Oh maaaan, Iron Maiden! If it was in good shape it could've brought in some $$$, old Metallica LPs are worth around $100 a piece. I have a few but they're not really mint condition. The oldest one was even missing a piece of the plate, found out after I'd bought it. :/


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-24 15:37:55

The stock rice is going down? a sad day for investors.

Well yeah i do support the notion of not trying to comprehend the incomprehensible.

If i remember well he tried to invade Japan twice, and he failed twice XD. Well i know how you will mix whirlwind/cyclone/hurricane/tornado/ and maybe typhoon, but Tsunami is a whole different thing haha. Well you know Japanese had that whole Samurai caste system and were full of themselves even after the restoration, so it was easy for them to feel better than all the other Asians, even today some Japanese look down on Koreans, have you even went to an Asian submit? the Japanese representative can't be next to the Korean one, and the Chinese is usually in the middle the whole thing is both sad and hilarious.

Too lazy to search for it, but there must be, after all to completely delete data is hard as it gets!
(I cant believe NG still censors the word nig ga XD) It takes a nation to stop him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEz7fwL7fFE

It seems you are ready for the Olympics.

You resurrected! are you... a zombie!!!!?
I don't know in which state it was, but it still hurts, it was not mine, my uncle gave it to my mom some time ago and i don't know what she was thinking when she got rid of it.

Cyberdevil responds:

I guess we better stock up on rice ASAP!

But if we never try to comprehend what we don't comprehend, then we'll never learn anything. :/

Yupp, two times, two typhoons! lmao, I mixed them up again!! It all sounds so alike dammit!

Never been to an Asian summit no. I know they have some problems with each other, but I didn't know the Japanese were the ones looking down on the others, I thought it was a distrust they all shared... that course might've been a bit angled. :P

All you need is a really strong magnet or a crusher! The thing with corrupting data though is that you can't locate a certain piece of information on a certain part of the disc, at least as I've understood it all these bits are spread out across the surface and linked together through the index, which is also not stored in a certain physical location, and how do you 'find' the information in the first place, through the physical surface? When it's fully digital, is there actually a way to 'see' the info without accessing it through the interface it's been designed for? If you do find something, how would you corrupt that without affecting all the surrounding data? It seems like incredible precision work, it'd be like picking up an atom of gray matter in front of us that we don't even know is there. Or maybe I'm completely misunderstanding how HDs work...

Believe it or not! http://youtu.be/6LvLgdZ9uAk

Nah, I need something a bit more challenging than that.

Not that I know of. Got brains?
Huh, was it more of a memento? Yeah strange indeed, * ways are mysterious...


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-25 21:16:44

No no when the price of the rice goes down, you need to get them wealthy wheat!

But we cant comprehend it because is beyond our field of comprehensible comprehension!

Oh yeah don't get me wrong i like Japan more than Korean, and i get this nice feeling with ancient Chine, the people and the place are great, but with all sincerity the Japanese are full of themselves XD.

Man i wonder why countries burn and dump all their data in African electronic dumpsters instead of magnetizing it? anyway as i understand it each bit is a charged electron that is either - or + so it should still count as physical, however i guess we should still need an interface to see the data.

It seems they lack that hood mentality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pIPDheGhVk

The universal Olympics!?

Yeah, but i am not sharing.
Na not really a memento, he just gave it to her, because yes, then she got rid of it, for the same reasons XD, but the one who suffers is me!

Cyberdevil responds:

But I'm down with the price you know, I have high hopes for new lows!

That sounds comprehensive.

Hmm... Nintendo does give that impression! I'll take your word for it... and from now on look at anything Japanese with a skeptic gaze. :) Their humble attitude is quite the deception huh. Gotta go there some time; see how it really is!

They do that?! Probably because they don't really know what they're doing. Aha.

Yeah, that crack baby: http://youtu.be/ubx6HQtM0FI

An interplanetary sports event?Sign me up!

Haha, ah, I don't... I don't know what to say. It's a tragedy. I am sorry for your loss man!


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-26 16:58:54

How low can you sink?

I am glad you comprehend.

Yeah somethings you just have to see them with your own eyes, even if our senses deceive us XD.

Lol.

Is playing with a Jack in the box: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw3qkR-lhFI

You are signed, but we don't have the technology to send you there.

Haha i appreciate the sentiment.

(Updated ) Cyberdevil responds:

My sink is pretty low.

I am glad you are glad!

lol, even if what we see is all just a figment of our imaginations and we are actually having this conversation with ourself... I'd like to see Japan! :D

Wonder what'll play tomorrow? http://youtu.be/oqhvw_cN1zA

I guess it'd be a hard drive. :/

:)


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-02-26 21:33:33

Is that so? is one of those kindergarten type sinks?

We are glad about all this gladness.

You will see it, someday, however i can't assure you if that Japan will be real or not.

He will probably play a roll call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktdFm7xNJow

A hard drive? just getting you to the moon is troublesome already XD.

Cyberdevil responds:

No I'm just kinda high.

We are so glad we get tearglads.

For real. And if it's not really real, you should go ahead and see it right away!

You know how they do it! http://youtu.be/rzRqEWJYwX4

Well I just sat a light, didn't get anywhere.


DoomroarDoomroar

2014-03-01 01:26:58

Yo man i conveniently stumbled upon this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxnmMrWOj3c to tell you the truth while i already knew that Japanese where full of themselves it seems that it gets quite crazy sometimes.

Cyberdevil responds:

Seems like the discrimination part is a worldwide problem, not just Japan, though it's crazy how few Japanese actually realize what outlook they have... brainwashing, subjugation? The thing about using Okinawan people as shields was pretty sick, but I didn't find that thing about how people from certain districts look down on people from other districts as strange as it seems the teacher did. It's a worldwide phenomena, there's always that 'we're better than *selected category*' wherever you live, with some more than others, and does that make us worse people? I suppose if that leads to using a certain group of for labor or shields, then yeah, it's horrible, but it shouldn't need to come to that. It's like how Swedes joke about how stupid Norwegian people are, and Norwegians have the same jokes about us. There's plenty of stuff like 'The Book of Norwegian Inventions' with fictional contraptions like an inflatable dart board, etc... no bitterness between the countries though. And smaller villages always distance themselves from their neighbors, strange how we've stopped taking territories for granted, going for a global world when everyone really needs their own safe zone. Family/friends/house/property/neighborhood/town/city/country/continent... the larger it gets, the more impersonal, and people give everyone and anything a stereotype when they don't know them/it, tis nature. But yeah, crazy about those Okinawans, on my way to the second video...